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#1 2009-08-23 18:34:57

gradgrind
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larch-7 testing

A new version of larch is gradually taking form. This one boasts a rewrite in python - just using bash as a back-end - and a pyqt front end. It also has a few new features for the building of the live systems. You can download a test version and the documentation is just starting to get going, so click on down to the web-site, folks ...

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#2 2009-09-15 17:09:52

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Re: larch-7 testing

Hi gradgrind, thank you for your work. i've successfully builded a bootable pendrive with larch7, works great. the only thing that i've noticed is that there's a typo on xmini and xmaxi profiles, specifically on /rc.d/functions.d/larch-autologin in line 1, on the hook name:

 sysinit_end_larch_autolgin()  {

should be:

 sysinit_end_larch_autologin()  {

cheers!

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#3 2009-09-17 06:02:29

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Re: larch-7 testing

Thanks for the report, I hope that is fixed now.

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#4 2009-09-18 11:13:18

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Re: larch-7 testing

great , iam testing it , but may i ask , why python ? smile

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#5 2009-09-18 12:13:18

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Re: larch-7 testing

Er, why not python?

Earlier versions of larch were 99% bash. Given the desired features of this version bash was no longer a choice.
Python has good bindings to gui toolkits.
Python has very good libraries.
Python is relatiively quick and easy to code.

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#6 2009-09-18 12:51:51

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Re: larch-7 testing

hello, I run "larch -c" and I expect any help or usage output, but I have error

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#7 2009-09-18 16:36:58

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Re: larch-7 testing

What is larch?

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#8 2009-09-18 19:05:02

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Re: larch-7 testing

Live arch=larch

A system using CD or USB to install custom arch in LIVE format using squashfs.


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#9 2009-09-18 21:33:02

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Re: larch-7 testing

i don't care about the gui if its written in python , as long as i still can use the backend bash scripts just like in older versions smile

since i wrote some auto-iso-make script for my iso , thanks for you efforts big_smile ( never meant to doubt your own software wink )

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#10 2009-09-21 05:46:25

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Re: larch-7 testing

ig0r wrote:

hello, I run "larch -c" and I expect any help or usage output, but I have error

Thanks for the report, I'll have a look at that.

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#11 2009-09-21 05:49:26

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Re: larch-7 testing

l3thal wrote:

i don't care about the gui if its written in python , as long as i still can use the backend bash scripts just like in older versions smile

since i wrote some auto-iso-make script for my iso , thanks for you efforts big_smile ( never meant to doubt your own software wink )

larch-7 doesn't really have any bash scripts as the previous version did (there's no 'mklarch' or 'larchify'), it's really nearly all python. There is a command line interface, but it's different - see the docs. (And please test it if you have the time.)

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#12 2009-09-21 15:50:12

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Re: larch-7 testing

How compatible is this with the old larch profiles? I may consider giving this a try if it isn't too much work to convert them. smile

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#13 2009-09-21 16:01:47

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Re: larch-7 testing

smartboyathome wrote:

How compatible is this with the old larch profiles? I may consider giving this a try if it isn't too much work to convert them. smile

It has changed a bit, but (depending on what's in your profile) it might not be a big change. Have a look at http://larch.berlios.de/doc7/larch_profiles.html, there's a short list of the main profile items.

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#14 2009-09-24 10:36:49

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Re: larch-7 testing

Great work gradgrind!

Currently testing it now, i'll post any feedback bugs as soon as possible.

rich

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#15 2009-10-04 23:01:15

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Re: larch-7 testing

I am unable to reach ftp.berlios.de/pub/larch/ or http://larch.berlios.de/ lately.
I could set up a mirror if I could access the main site.

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#16 2009-10-05 13:14:26

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Re: larch-7 testing

They're up now - I get the impression they're sometimes down at the weekend.

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#17 2009-10-18 13:44:59

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Re: larch-7 testing

I'm getting : "ui dead (!log:logtext.append_and_scroll ["/"]) when trying to run larch as root.

Is larchify still in this 7 version?

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#18 2009-10-18 14:32:44

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Re: larch-7 testing

farvardin wrote:

I'm getting : "ui dead (!log:logtext.append_and_scroll ["/"]) when trying to run larch as root.

Is larchify still in this 7 version?

Could you give me some more details - or is this the only thing you get when you run it?

'larchify' as such is no longer in version 7, but there is a command line way of doing basically the same thing - there's a documentation page about the command line interface.

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#19 2009-10-18 22:30:51

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It's the only thing I get when running larch, yes.

Larchify is mentionned in the larch 7 documentation, it's the reason why I thought it could the there.
I'll try the console version (described there http://larch.berlios.de/doc7/larch_console.html ). The link to this page is broken, from the previous page http://larch.berlios.de/doc7/larch_running.html

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#20 2009-10-19 01:23:54

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Re: larch-7 testing

Hello again!

Wondering if mdadm-based raid arrays can be utilized in Larch?

They usually are --assembled in initramfs through mkinitcpio with the arrays defined in /etc/mdadm.conf.

Thus, perhaps with session saving, the params could be generated in a session and then be permanent after saving.

This would change mkinitcpio hooks as well to include mdadm.

Maybe or maybe no?


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#21 2009-10-19 07:18:56

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Re: larch-7 testing

farvardin wrote:

It's the only thing I get when running larch, yes.

Larchify is mentionned in the larch 7 documentation, it's the reason why I thought it could the there.
I'll try the console version (described there http://larch.berlios.de/doc7/larch_console.html ). The link to this page is broken, from the previous page http://larch.berlios.de/doc7/larch_running.html

I've just figured out what your problem with running just 'larch' must have been - without arguments it tries to start the gui, which in your case will not have been possible (probably because you were not in an xorg session, or else you were 'su -').

Thanks for the report about the broken link.

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#22 2009-10-19 07:20:44

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Re: larch-7 testing

lilsirecho wrote:

Hello again!

Wondering if mdadm-based raid arrays can be utilized in Larch?

They usually are --assembled in initramfs through mkinitcpio with the arrays defined in /etc/mdadm.conf.

Thus, perhaps with session saving, the params could be generated in a session and then be permanent after saving.

This would change mkinitcpio hooks as well to include mdadm.

Maybe or maybe no?

I think this should be possible, though of course I haven't tried it.

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#23 2009-10-19 11:49:37

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Re: larch-7 testing

gradgrind wrote:
farvardin wrote:

It's the only thing I get when running larch, yes.

Larchify is mentionned in the larch 7 documentation, it's the reason why I thought it could the there.
I'll try the console version (described there http://larch.berlios.de/doc7/larch_console.html ). The link to this page is broken, from the previous page http://larch.berlios.de/doc7/larch_running.html

I've just figured out what your problem with running just 'larch' must have been - without arguments it tries to start the gui, which in your case will not have been possible (probably because you were not in an xorg session, or else you were 'su -').

Thanks for the report about the broken link.

So in larch 7 there is a GUI, but it GUI cant be used while su-, although larch has to be run as a root? How can I use GUI then? Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here.

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#24 2009-10-19 12:07:22

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Re: larch-7 testing

If you have gksu or kdesu installed, they will be used automatically, otherwise you can use sudo or even 'su', but then without the '-' (otherwise you have problems with X-authentication).

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#25 2009-10-19 12:30:30

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Re: larch-7 testing

sudo larch, gksu larch and su -c larch, all give me this error.

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