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#176 2009-10-04 19:30:47

nTia89
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Re: gnome unstable repository

2kr2ux.png

i've see this .....
overlap eject and volume/brightness notification


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#177 2009-10-04 19:44:56

Thek586
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Re: gnome unstable repository

nTia89 wrote:

why battery icon is old style?

What "old style" ?
Here, no changes for the batt icon

nTia89 wrote:

http://i33.tinypic.com/2kr2ux.png

i've see this .....
overlap eject and volume/brightness notification

Here i use metacity compositing manager, no problem with/without
http://upload.justforlulz.fr/data/compovolume.png

Last edited by Thek586 (2009-10-04 19:50:55)

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#178 2009-10-04 21:44:35

Garns
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Re: gnome unstable repository

shining wrote:

The problem is that for the Apps / Shortcuts / System menus, if icons are enabled, icons are everywhere. If icons are disabled, icons are nearly everywhere except in a few places. That looks ugly.
I would prefer to have no icons at all rather than something in between.

I guess the behaviour is based on their Application / File or Bookmark / Device rule, but imho icons in that menu are ok and you can probably find an icon for everything in there, contrary to menu bar menus. I think splitting the icon option into several for different menus and allowing users to toggle betwenn no icons (what you want), some icons (new default) and many icons (old default) would make sense. But I don't think that will ever happen in Gnome.

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#179 2009-10-05 09:16:09

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Re: gnome unstable repository

Ok, currently it looks like it's a kernel bug with udev that is causing so much trouble with recognizing dvd's... Ubuntu karmic beta has the same problem...

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#180 2009-10-05 18:49:22

nTia89
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Re: gnome unstable repository

Thek586 wrote:

Here i use metacity compositing manager, no problem with/without
http://upload.justforlulz.fr/data/compovolume.png

how i can enable it ???


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#181 2009-10-05 19:11:27

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Re: gnome unstable repository

Open your gconf-editor, go to: apps/metacity/general and hit the checkbox that says "compositing_manager".

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#182 2009-10-05 19:13:31

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Re: gnome unstable repository

You can also try mutter-git, the GNOME 2.3/3.0 version of metacity.

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#183 2009-10-06 18:32:41

nTia89
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Re: gnome unstable repository

Maledictvm wrote:

Open your gconf-editor, go to: apps/metacity/general and hit the checkbox that says "compositing_manager".

perfect , thanks very much
BUT why this option isn't default choice ???

at JGC:

can you update empathy / telepathy packages
thanks


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#184 2009-10-06 20:23:03

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Re: gnome unstable repository

nTia89 wrote:
Maledictvm wrote:

Open your gconf-editor, go to: apps/metacity/general and hit the checkbox that says "compositing_manager".

perfect , thanks very much
BUT why this option isn't default choice ???

Because compositing in metacity is a very recent, slightly experimental addition. Translation, it was hacked on. The choice is made in upstream anyway, there's no reason all user should pay the performance cost when only some need composition. Those who want composition would probably use compiz ANYWAY.


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#185 2009-10-07 07:21:48

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Re: gnome unstable repository

I won't package empathy, as I don't want to maintain the telepathy stack myself. We pulled this into testing for 2.24, then never updated it and decided to drop it to community again, where people who use it can maintain it.

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#186 2009-10-07 14:15:14

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Re: gnome unstable repository

JGC I just wanted to say ty for all the work you do for the gnome and other packages. I would also like to extend a thank you to all the other package maintainers that make arch linux a great distro.

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#187 2009-10-07 16:10:34

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Re: gnome unstable repository

First, jgc, thanks for your great work!!

Today I decide to test gnome-unstable. My first impression is that it works well, except that the system usage seems to run at 100% all the time. That's a little bit strange because the apps largely response smooth. But the cpu must be in heavy use because the fan of my notebook works hard and the systemmonitor shows an cpu usage of 100%.

Top doesn't show which process consumes such a high portion of cputime. (I can post a screen of top here if desired).

Is this a known problem?

Last edited by haeger (2009-10-07 16:11:41)

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#188 2009-10-07 16:22:28

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Re: gnome unstable repository

Read the thread from the beggining carefully big_smile

Type in terminal: killall metacity

I suppose you have compiz enabled right?

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#189 2009-10-07 16:36:26

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Re: gnome unstable repository

Wops!

Sorry i haven't read the whole thread! My fault!

Yes i'm using compiz

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#190 2009-10-08 02:12:51

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Re: gnome unstable repository

@ JGC

i have a problem....

nothings broke smile

thanks for a superb job for you and your team even if that means just your right and left hand team smile

I would like to know though from you all the activate the gnome-unstable repo and testing. When do you comment them out again and just handle the base repos? I noticed a lot of version mismatches if I closed them off now. I'm guessing this is because gnome hasn't hit extra yet. Advice?

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#191 2009-10-08 07:32:32

JGC
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Re: gnome unstable repository

You don't need testing anymore with gnome-unstable, as I compiled gtk2 against cups in extra. I still haven't finished my todo-list, so this repository will not merge with extra yet.

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#192 2009-10-08 08:53:29

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Re: gnome unstable repository


pacman roulette : pacman -S $(pacman -Slq | LANG=C sort -R | head -n $((RANDOM % 10)))

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#193 2009-10-08 10:41:03

haeger
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Re: gnome unstable repository

I hope i haven't overlooked a hint this time.

When i hit the new mail button in evolution the app crashes. Related error messages are:

----------- .xsession-errors ---------------------
** (evolution:4833): DEBUG: mailto URL command: evolution %s
** (evolution:4833): DEBUG: mailto URL program: evolution
(evolution:4833): gtkhtml-editor-WARNING **: lc: No such language
--------------------------------------------------

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#194 2009-10-08 12:41:42

JGC
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Re: gnome unstable repository

gtkhtml has a nullpointer dereference when you hit the backspace bug. I can reproduce it on i686, which makes evolution unusable for me. FreeBSD already has a patch for this.

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#195 2009-10-08 13:10:42

jorchube
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Re: gnome unstable repository

what?

I can hit on the "new mail" button in evolution, works as expected. I can send mails normally.


by the way, I've installed gnome 2.28 this morning, and all seems to work perfect, except some packages out of the repo, for example, I have this error trying to start inkscape:

"inkscape: error while loading shared libraries: libpoppler.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"


BTW, good work, as always, JGC. smile

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#196 2009-10-08 14:40:42

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Re: gnome unstable repository

When I comment out testing the following generates as nagware. With testing enabled the only things I have put on hold are kernel26 and poppler/glib and I get no nagware warnings.



:: Starting full system upgrade...
warning: bluez: local (4.55-1) is newer than extra (4.54-1)
warning: cups: local (1.4.1-1) is newer than extra (1.3.11-1)
warning: curl: local (7.19.6-2) is newer than extra (7.19.6-1)
warning: dhcpcd: local (5.1.1-1) is newer than core (5.1.0-1)
warning: fakeroot: local (1.13.1-1) is newer than core (1.13-1)
warning: ghostscript: local (8.70-2) is newer than extra (8.70-1)
warning: gzip: local (1.3.13-1) is newer than core (1.3.12-6)
warning: hplip: local (3.9.8-2) is newer than extra (3.9.6b-2)
warning: iptables: local (1.4.5-1) is newer than core (1.4.4-1)
warning: kernel26: local (2.6.31.1-1) is newer than core (2.6.30.6-1)
warning: kernel26-firmware: local (2.6.31-1) is newer than core (2.6.30-1)
warning: kqemu: local (1.4.0pre1-4) is newer than extra (1.4.0pre1-3)
warning: libcups: local (1.4.1-1) is newer than extra (1.3.11-1)
warning: librpcsecgss: local (0.19-1) is newer than core (0.18-1)
warning: mlocate: local (0.22.2-1) is newer than core (0.22.1-1)
warning: nfs-utils: local (1.2.0-4) is newer than core (1.2.0-3)
warning: obexd: local (0.18-1) is newer than extra (0.17-1)
warning: openobex: local (1.5-1) is newer than extra (1.4-1)
warning: pacman: local (3.3.2-1) is newer than core (3.3.1-1)
warning: perl: local (5.10.1-4) is newer than core (5.10.1-3)
warning: poppler: ignoring package upgrade (0.10.7-2 => 0.12.0-1)
warning: poppler-glib: ignoring package upgrade (0.10.7-1 => 0.12.0-1)
warning: popt: local (1.15-1) is newer than core (1.14-1)
warning: xfsprogs: local (3.0.3-1) is newer than core (3.0.1-2)
resolving dependencies...
warning: ignoring package poppler-glib-0.12.0-1
warning: cannot resolve "poppler-glib>=0.12.0", a dependency of "evince"
:: the following package(s) cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies:
      evince 

Do you want to skip the above package(s) for this upgrade? [Y/n] y
looking for inter-conflicts...
local database is up to date

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#197 2009-10-08 14:44:03

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Re: gnome unstable repository

Orange, pacman is just telling you that your locally installed version is higher than the version in the repos. Which it is, because the entire point of [testing] and [gnome-unstable] is to get you higher versioned software. Its not nagware smile.


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#198 2009-10-08 15:04:15

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Re: gnome unstable repository

Cool ngoonee. Just getting used to how ArchLinux rolls out a new edition of a DE/WM. I just wasn't expecting anything but my poppler and kernel holds when I read about gtk2 being upgraded. I don't know if it's the new Gnome, kernel hooks, acpi caught up or what, but I'm really jazzed that all my special buttons work now on my box that are not part of the regular keyboard strokes. I can finally adjust my screen brightness and volume levels without a specific application. smile

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#199 2009-10-08 17:54:12

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Re: gnome unstable repository

gnome-shell is now in  gnome ftp..

Last edited by ahioros (2009-10-08 20:28:58)

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#200 2009-10-08 20:03:46

syms
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Re: gnome unstable repository

Since all of gnome 2.28 packages are available, why it isnt moved to [testing]?

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