Xorg problems

vinoman2 · 2009-11-03 02:57:28

I see that a lot of people are having trouble with the latest upgrade and Xorg. I makes me wary to upgrade this time! What is needed to do a smooth upgrade? I have an Nvidia GeForce 7100 and running Gnome.

tavianator · 2009-11-03 04:43:42

vinoman2 wrote:

I see that a lot of people are having trouble with the latest upgrade and Xorg. I makes me wary to upgrade this time! What is needed to do a smooth upgrade? I have an Nvidia GeForce 7100 and running Gnome.

People have been having tonnes of problems with the nVidia blob drivers. If you're running those, it might be best to hold off for a while. But I'd recommend switching to nouveau anyway.

JohnVV · 2009-11-03 04:58:29

i am one of those using the nvidia.run driver

from what i have read it looks like a nvidia issue BUT it may also be a nvidia,ati,intel issue

i just finished downgrading xorg

1LordAnubis · 2009-11-03 05:49:55

What driver do you use? From the looks of it, nvidia has yet to release a proprietary driver for a lot of cards- that make them work with xorg 1.7.
My advice is to steer clear of xorg updates until you know you have an nvidia driver that works with the new xorg. Otherwise you will be using the nv driver (pretty lame IMO, but opensource) or doing what I did- I had to manually hunt down about 40 packages and downgrade to those.

Its probably a good idea to add all xorg related stuff to your ignorepkg list in pacman.conf for the time being...

iggy · 2009-11-03 10:21:15

JohnVV wrote:

i just finished downgrading xorg

can you help me please. i also want to downgrade xorg. which packages i have to downgrade?

thx, iggy

vinoman2 · 2009-11-03 11:35:13

Thanks I'll won't do any Xorg upgrades. How would I upgrade the rest of the upgrades with -Syu without upgrading Xorg?

grey · 2009-11-03 11:42:15

For me with an intel graphics driver its these:

xextproto fixesproto inputproto libdrm libx11 libxext libxxf86vm libxfixes libxdamage libdmx libxt libxmu libxpm libxaw libxcomposite libxdmcp libxfont libxfontcache renderproto libxrender libxft libxi libxinerama libxkbfile libxtst libxv libxvmc libxxf86dga libxxf86misc shared-mime-info xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-video-vesa xorg-apps xorg-font-utils xorg-server-utils xorg-utils xorg-xkb-utils libgl intel-dri mesa xf86-video-intel xorg-server xterm

s/intel/nvidia.

tavianator · 2009-11-03 14:12:48

vinoman2 wrote:

Thanks I'll won't do any Xorg upgrades. How would I upgrade the rest of the upgrades with -Syu without upgrading Xorg?

Use IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf.

vinoman2 · 2009-11-03 14:14:23

tavianator wrote:

vinoman2 wrote:
Thanks I'll won't do any Xorg upgrades. How would I upgrade the rest of the upgrades with -Syu without upgrading Xorg?
Use IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf.

How do you do that?

new2arch · 2009-11-03 14:40:58

vinoman2 wrote:

tavianator wrote:
vinoman2 wrote:
Thanks I'll won't do any Xorg upgrades. How would I upgrade the rest of the upgrades with -Syu without upgrading Xorg?
Use IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf.
How do you do that?

Open terminal and su - yourself into root;
Type nano (or vim or mousepad etc etc) /etc/pacman.conf.
You will note a line that says:

# Pacman won't upgrade packages listed in IgnorePkg and members of IgnoreGroup
IgnorePkg =

Just insert all the packages you don't want to upgrade.

My IgnorePkg list looks like this:

IgnorePkg = xf86-video-ati xf86-video-vesa xorg-server xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-evdev xorg-server-utils xorg-apps xorg-font-utils xorg-fonts-alias xorg-fonts-encodings xorg-xauth xorg-xkb-utils mesa xorg-utils xf86-input-synaptics libdrm libx11 xextproto libxext libxxf86vm fixesproto libxfixes libxdamage libgl ati-dri dbus-glib inputproto libdmx libxcomposite libxdmcp libxfont libxfontcache renderproto libxrender libxft libxi libxinerama libxkbfile libxt libxmu libxpm libxres libxtst libxv libxvmc libxxf86dga libxxf86misc xterm

I suggest you install mousepad or gedit and use one of those instead of nano or vim if you have a bunch of packages you want to add there, because adding them thru nano or vim is a tedious work.

Too bad I can't use IgnoreGroup instead. So much easier. ^^

Last edited by new2arch (2009-11-03 14:44:49)

vinoman2 · 2009-11-03 14:46:27

new2arch wrote:

vinoman2 wrote:
tavianator wrote:
Use IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf.
How do you do that?
Open terminal and su - yourself into root;
Type nano (or vim or mousepad etc etc) /etc/pacman.conf.
You will note a line that says:
# Pacman won't upgrade packages listed in IgnorePkg and members of IgnoreGroup
IgnorePkg =
Just insert all the packages you don't want to upgrade.
My IgnorePkg list looks like this:
IgnorePkg = xf86-video-ati xf86-video-vesa xorg-server xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-evdev xorg-server-utils xorg-apps xorg-font-utils xorg-fonts-alias xorg-fonts-encodings xorg-xauth xorg-xkb-utils mesa xorg-utils xf86-input-synaptics libdrm libx11 xextproto libxext libxxf86vm fixesproto libxfixes libxdamage libgl ati-dri dbus-glib inputproto libdmx libxcomposite libxdmcp libxfont libxfontcache renderproto libxrender libxft libxi libxinerama libxkbfile libxt libxmu libxpm libxres libxtst libxv libxvmc libxxf86dga libxxf86misc xterm
I suggest you install mousepad or gedit and use one of those instead of nano or vim if you have a bunch of packages you want to add there, because adding them thru nano or vim is a tedious work.
Too bad I can't use IgnoreGroup instead. So much easier. ^^

Thanks.

vinoman2 · 2009-11-04 14:42:21

What happens if I wait a month to do an upgrade? Will the Xorg problems be solved so I can upgrade everything?

I would rather wait until packages are fixed rather than have to have some ignored and some upgraded. What do you think?

bgc1954 · 2009-11-04 15:13:04

I don't think you'll have a big problem as long as you're using the latest nvidia driver and add a line to your xorg.conf in the ServerFlags section

Section "ServerFlags"
   Option "IgnoreABI" "on"
EndSection

That did the trick for me yesterday with a geForce 6200 card. See http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 77#p649277 and http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=83892

Last edited by bgc1954 (2009-11-04 15:14:05)

vinoman2 · 2009-11-04 15:44:24

bgc1954 wrote:

I don't think you'll have a big problem as long as you're using the latest nvidia driver and add a line to your xorg.conf in the ServerFlags section
Section "ServerFlags"
   Option "IgnoreABI" "on"
EndSection
That did the trick for me yesterday with a geForce 6200 card. See http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 77#p649277 and http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=83892

Great. Will this take the place of using the IgnorePkg for the xorg updates?
I have a geforce 7100 onboard video on a Biostar board.

Last edited by vinoman2 (2009-11-04 15:46:15)

bgc1954 · 2009-11-04 16:15:54

Actually, after using that line in xorg.conf, the update worked fine and I was able to comment out my IgnorePkg line again. So until something new in xorg gets messed up again, we should be able to upgrade with no problems. That's the fun and frustration of being on the bleeding edge.

vinoman2 · 2009-11-04 16:35:15

bgc1954 wrote:

Actually, after using that line in xorg.conf, the update worked fine and I was able to comment out my IgnorePkg line again. So until something new in xorg gets messed up again, we should be able to upgrade with no problems. That's the fun and frustration of being on the bleeding edge.

So are you saying that I do need to add new xorg pkgs to the IgnorePkg or not?

bgc1954 · 2009-11-04 17:30:27

Sorry if you misunderstood. By commenting out the IgnorePkg line in /etc/pacman.conf with a # in front of it, I now have no packages that pacman won't update.

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vinoman2 · 2009-11-06 03:46:16

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