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#1 2009-11-06 07:20:25

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ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

I have a very minimal Arch installation with Xfce and only a few daemons. Cpu usage is usally around 5-10%.

The thing is the GPU temperature idles around 60 degrees at WUXGA (1920x1200) resolution. It's an nVidia Quadro FX570M with nvidia driver installed and powermizer working. Is this normal? Is there any way I can decrease it?


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#2 2009-11-06 10:00:50

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

I have the same issue on a T60p when I run linux on it. Both CPU and GPU get very hot even with light usage. The only solution I found is to set fan speed to maximum. http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_control_fan_speed explains how in section "Using a stock kernel".


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#3 2009-11-06 10:05:17

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

Well, if I do that how much drop in temperatures should I expect?


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#4 2009-11-06 15:31:52

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

I've got T61p as well with the same GPU, 14,1" though.

Currently it's 44 deg, gets up to 70 while playing UT2004 wink


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#5 2009-11-06 17:11:25

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

Wow, 44 deg is incredible! Is it just because of the screen size&resolution or did you make some modifications (i.e changing the thermal compound)?


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#6 2009-11-06 20:37:21

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

Nope, i did nothing. However while playing UT2004 it gets up to 70 wink


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#7 2009-11-06 20:39:10

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

It reaches 65 - 68 just watching videos on Youtube. I guess the 14.1" model must have something different.


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#8 2009-11-06 20:52:36

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

That's odd. How about CPU temp? Mine is currently 39 (opera + mpd only), with intensive, but normal usage it never exceeds 50 (however I'm not talking about gaming or compiling, sure it gets hot then).

That's my current sensors output. I'm sitting in quite cold room right now, maybe that's what making few degrees of difference.

[kuba@t61p ~]\$ sensors
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:       +39.0°C  (crit = +127.0°C)                  
temp2:       +35.0°C  (crit = +100.0°C)                  

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1:       2425 RPM
temp1:       +39.0°C                                    
temp2:       +38.0°C                                    
temp3:       +29.0°C                                    
temp4:       +43.0°C                                    
temp5:       +27.0°C                                    
ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature temp6_input: Can't read
temp6:        +0.0°C                                    
temp7:       +24.0°C                                    
ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature temp8_input: Can't read
temp8:        +0.0°C                                    
temp9:       +36.0°C                                    
temp10:      +39.0°C                                    
temp11:      +36.0°C                                    
ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature temp12_input: Can't read
temp12:       +0.0°C                                    
ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature temp13_input: Can't read
temp13:       +0.0°C                                    
ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature temp14_input: Can't read
temp14:       +0.0°C                                    
ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature temp15_input: Can't read
temp15:       +0.0°C                                    
ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature temp16_input: Can't read
temp16:       +0.0°C

Thinkpad T61p : T7700 | 4GB RAM | nVidia FX 570M | Intel 4965
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#9 2009-11-06 20:55:43

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

Well, my CPU (T7700) idles at around 45 degrees. Here's the sensors output:

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:       +46.0°C  (crit = +127.0°C)                  
temp2:       +45.0°C  (crit = +100.0°C)                  

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1:       2567 RPM
temp1:       +46.0°C                                    
temp2:       +39.0°C                                    
temp3:       +35.0°C                                    
temp4:       +45.0°C                                    
temp5:        +0.0°C                                    
temp6:        +0.0°C                                    
temp7:        +0.0°C                                    
temp8:        +0.0°C                                    
temp9:       +37.0°C                                    
temp10:      +44.0°C                                    
temp11:      +43.0°C                                    
temp12:       +0.0°C                                    
temp13:       +0.0°C                                    
temp14:       +0.0°C                                    
temp15:       +0.0°C                                    
temp16:       +0.0°C                                    

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0:      +45.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  

coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 1:      +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

Any ideas, anyone?


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#10 2009-11-06 21:00:08

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

It also seems that your fan spins at a lower rpm than mine, yet your system is much cooler. I wonder if this is entirely caused by the screen. The GPU and CPU share the same heat pipe, so maybe my CPU temps are higher, simply because the GPU heats up the entire pipe. Just a thought...

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#11 2009-11-06 21:03:26

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

Last shot - how about temperature while using Windows?

AFAIK our models may differ quite much in design. Mine is 4:3 and your's widescreen.

I use tp-fancontrol script for controling fan speed.

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#12 2009-11-06 21:08:28

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

Well, I don't have a temperature sensing software in Windows (I hardly ever boot into Windows anyway) but the keyboard gets approximately equally hot, so I'm not so sure if it's an OS specific issue. I'll check and post the temps though. Thanks for the help.


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#13 2009-11-06 21:23:12

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

I use this piece of software, give it a try.

http://www.staff.uni-marburg.de/~schmitzr/donate.html


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#14 2009-11-06 22:10:36

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

Well, I've used the software you've suggested. Here's how it looks:

1 cpu 53°C
2 aps 42°C
3 crd 36°C
4 gpu 51°C
9 bus 38°C
10 pci 44°C
11 pwr 48°C

It seems like the CPU idles around the same, but there is a 6-7 deg drop in GPU temp. So yeah, it is an OS specific issue. Should I blame the nvidia driver for that or is it more likely that it's something entirely different?

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#15 2009-11-06 22:14:04

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

I take that back, after 5 minutes of regular browsing in Windows, here's how it looks:

1 cpu 59°C
2 aps 44°C
3 crd 38°C
4 gpu 57°C
9 bus 39°C
10 pci 46°C
11 pwr 52°C

So it's not an OS issue. I guess I'll use tp fan control and spin the fan at the maximum.


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#16 2009-11-06 22:51:42

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

At least it's not Arch's problem wink Have you tried cleaning coolant system with compressed air?


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#17 2009-11-07 01:08:06

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

One more thing - how about your powermizer settings? Once I used to use a script setting GPU to max freq. while on AC, however I do not anymore, due to slightly increased heat.


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#18 2009-11-07 07:39:37

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

Well, here's my powermizer settings:
200911070935471920x1200.png


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#19 2009-11-07 11:30:16

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

So it is not it neither. I'm out of ideas, sorry smile


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#20 2009-11-07 11:41:09

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

Well, thanks for trying smile


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#21 2009-11-07 12:57:52

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Re: ThinkPad T61p idle GPU temperature

Well, I have installed TP Fan Control and after running the fan at full speed for a couple of minutes, I get 35 deg CPU and 49 degree GPU temperatures. These are quite good values, but I wish there was a less noisy solution.


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