Update broke arch???

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 03:34:35

ok so last night i ran pacman -S on both the xf86 packages as my synaptics was failing and i needed to edit my touchpad and edting xorg wasnt helping and i didnt have the other file it needed. after that i pacman -Syu then turn my laptop off. now when it boots it can spawn a login screen i cant go to a tty and my backups are on that machine along with a whole heap of files i need to get to before i even consider re installing.
what can i do to fix this??

MadTux · 2009-11-07 07:06:15

From your description, I can't see what your problem is (X not starting, machine freezes, etc.). Also, some details about your hardware would be helpful.

jbw · 2009-11-07 10:30:07

Have you tried the fallback img?

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 10:44:29

I have tried to fall back image and it didnt help. My laptop is a dell studio 1555, Im guessing X freezes or something as I cant change to a tty. Also it keeps failing to mount my disks now so yeah..

jbw · 2009-11-07 10:56:15

How do you know if it fails to mount disks? If it's fails while booting there should be other failure messages before it failed to mount.

Have you tried killing X to get to a terminal?

efeX · 2009-11-07 10:58:18

You need to give more information.

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 10:59:21

i cant kill X because it wasnt opening to a terminal. It was failing because it was asking me to type the root password and then enter "mount -n -o remount ,rw /"

I did that then removed gdm from starting up in my rc.local and am able to open a tty window and am now updating and removing packages that may have caused the error as they are recently gotten..
(all in fall back image)

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 11:06:22

ok starting without the fall back image has frozen at
Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -225055088 ns)

not in fall back image

ok just rebooted had to mount drives. the error consisted of

/dev/sda3: Superblock last mount time (Sun Nov 8 02:45:08 2009, now = Sat Nov 7 19:11:47 2009) is in the future

FILESYSTEM CHECK FAILED
please repair manually and reboot. Note that the root file system is currently mounted read-only. To remount it read-write type: mount -n -o remount ,rw /
When you exit the maintenance shell the system will reboot automatically.

Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D to continue): Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -116217502 ns)

[root@(none) ~]# mount -n -o remount ,rw /
EXT4-fs (sda3): warning: mounting fs with errors running efsck is recommended
EXT4-fs (sda3): internal journal on sda3:8
[root@(none) ~]#

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jbw · 2009-11-07 11:14:06

Burning_aces wrote:

ok starting without the fall back image has frozen at
Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -225055088 ns)
not in fall back image

This might help with that.
http://kerneltrap.org/node/8306

.:B:. · 2009-11-07 11:21:27

Burning_aces wrote:

[...]
now when it boots it can spawn a login screen i cant go to a tty and my backups are on that machine along with a whole heap of files i need to get to before i even consider re installing.
what can i do to fix this??

I know this is not helpful at the moment, but reinstalling is a) a Windows solution and b) might very well make you end up where you are right now: with a broken system. There is no guarantee whatsoever that when you do a fresh install and update again the same thing won't happen.

Boot from any Linux live CD and chroot into the system, if you use the Arch installation ISO you can boot directly into the system (hopefully, no guarantee since it will use the installed kernel). To stop your system from booting into X edit your kernel command line (you can do that 'live' in GRUB') and append the number 3.

Oh - and mind your spelling/punctuation, it would make your posts a lot easier and enjoyable to read .

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 11:26:04

jbw wrote:

Burning_aces wrote:
ok starting without the fall back image has frozen at
Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -225055088 ns)
not in fall back image
This might help with that.
http://kerneltrap.org/node/8306

ok ill try leaving it for a while

Where would i put clocksource=acpi_pm?

B wrote:

Burning_aces wrote:
[...]
now when it boots it can spawn a login screen i cant go to a tty and my backups are on that machine along with a whole heap of files i need to get to before i even consider re installing.
what can i do to fix this??
I know this is not helpful at the moment, but reinstalling is a) a Windows solution and b) might very well make you end up where you are right now: with a broken system. There is no guarantee whatsoever that when you do a fresh install and update again the same thing won't happen.
Boot from any Linux live CD and chroot into the system, if you use the Arch installation ISO you can boot directly into the system (hopefully, no guarantee since it will use the installed kernel). To stop your system from booting into X edit your kernel command line (you can do that 'live' in GRUB') and append the number 3.
Oh - and mind your spelling/punctuation, it would make your posts a lot easier and enjoyable to read .

Sorry man. I would rather not re install as i dont want to format because of the data on my hdd.
i have been able to open a tty on arch linux fall back image now. is there anything i can do through that to fix the issue?

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jbw · 2009-11-07 11:35:40

Burning_aces wrote:

Where would i put clocksource=acpi_pm?

Says in the post, but it's in /boot/grub/menu.lst, the kernel line. You should probably use a livecd to backup your data, it is unlikely we'll fix all the problems something very wrong could have happened. So backup .

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 11:36:55

how can i use a live cd to back up O.o? sorry im a little new to some things

edit: trying to get into fall back image brought a new stop point

ieee1394: Host added; ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[334fc00034c48458]

edit2: a reboot froze it at the clocksource tsc line again

will try live cd now

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jbw · 2009-11-07 11:45:35

Burning_aces wrote:

how can i use a live cd to back up O.o? sorry im a little new to some things

Best bet is to get a popular Linux distro like Ubuntu which, if you look on the their site has a live cd. Or you can spend time making a live cd from Arch (there's a wiki to walk you through that).

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 11:56:27

i have an iso of arch linux just i dont know how to access the hard drive. i seem to be only able to edit whats on the cd

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 12:02:33

syslog-ng: Error creating pid file; file='/var/run/syslog-ng.pid', error= 'Read-only filesystem'
/bin/touch: cannot touch '/var/run/daemons/syslog-ng': Read-only file sysren

Its not saying my hdd or most of it is all read only

jbw · 2009-11-07 12:14:14

Burning_aces wrote:

i have an iso of arch linux just i dont know how to access the hard drive. i seem to be only able to edit whats on the cd

The normal arch iso isn't 'live' you have to take steps to make it so, afaik.

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 12:52:06

ok well on the ubuntu live cd i dont have access to the directories i need to access...
isnt there a way i can fix this with out formatting..

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Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 13:04:01

ok im trying to copy my home directory to a portable hard drive but cp keeps ommiting directory.. what am i doing wrong

flamelab · 2009-11-07 13:11:29

cp -r

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 13:13:46

-r ok thanks man. i ran -a as it containts it when i read the man file. took a minute to load lol. is the -a bad or?

chilebiker · 2009-11-07 13:44:45

Burning_aces wrote:

i cant kill X because it wasnt opening to a terminal. It was failing because it was asking me to type the root password and then enter "mount -n -o remount ,rw /"

To me this sounds like you need to check your filesystems. As root do for all your partitions (/, home...)

e2fsck /dev/sdxy

I have this problem every now and then on my laptop when splashy screwed up something...

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 13:55:15

chilebiker wrote:

Burning_aces wrote:
i cant kill X because it wasnt opening to a terminal. It was failing because it was asking me to type the root password and then enter "mount -n -o remount ,rw /"
To me this sounds like you need to check your filesystems. As root do for all your partitions (/, home...)
e2fsck /dev/sdxy
I have this problem every now and then on my laptop when splashy screwed up something...

aah thats the command im looking for thank you

Burning_aces · 2009-11-07 17:00:03

Ok sorry for double post but this is urgent.
i finally have a terminal window open in the fallback img. what can i do now to fix arch linux...

also the efsck command you gave me doesnt work

Last edited by Burning_aces (2009-11-07 18:32:16)

fsckd · 2009-11-07 19:08:25

Can you please give more information than "doesn't work". What is the output? Are there any error messages? And, are you able to get X started with the fallback image (seeing that you can open a terminal window). Can you get to X with the normal image?

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