Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

sHyLoCk · 2010-01-03 05:59:51

How do I display a right click menu?
Also does anyone know of a lightweight DM which has session switching ability. I'd like to switch between fluxbox and compiz. Right now I'm using SLIM which doesn't. Please don't suggest G/K-DM.

EDIT: Slim does...F1

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ngoonee · 2010-01-03 09:31:44

sHyLoCk wrote:

How do I display a right click menu?
Also does anyone know of a lightweight DM which has session switching ability. I'd like to switch between fluxbox and compiz. Right now I'm using SLIM which doesn't. Please don't suggest G/K-DM.

Why not just log off and log on?

sHyLoCk · 2010-01-03 12:07:44

ngoonee wrote:

Why not just log off and log on?

Solved: Right clicking menu, I overlooked the compiz wiki.

ngoonee,

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pogeymanz · 2010-01-03 23:44:09

pedepy wrote:

problem with using compiz as a standalone WM was never much bloat in the window manager itself but the fact that very few of those 'helper apps' (from panels & launchers to simple things like apps to draw a wallpaper on the root window) one so crucially needs when not in a fully featured DE like gnome or KDE, were all designed for non composited environements and never played nice with compiz.
maybe this is what's changing ?

That is still a problem. The only panel I've found that works correctly is Xfce4-panel because it can respect viewports. Although, feh and Nitrogen both work fine at drawing wallpaper (compiz also has its own wallpaper setter plugin). Conky also works fine.

P.S. Try using compiz without emerald running. It's kind of fun to be able to properly control my windows with no decorations at all.

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sHyLoCk · 2010-01-04 02:27:16

Hi pogeymanz,
I have compiz with emerald running, gkrellm, conky,etc. I use Rox-Filer to draw wallpaper and icons. And tint2 works well. bmpanel and pypanel had their own problems. While bmpanel launched properly but had some issues with high CPU usage, don't know why, pypanel never launched from .xinitrc and I had to manually launch it everytime. Tint2 works great. My compiz setup looks really nice now, I'm glad I found this thread.

ArchArael · 2010-01-04 09:58:12

sHyLoCk wrote:

Hi pogeymanz,
I have compiz with emerald running, gkrellm, conky,etc. I use Rox-Filer to draw wallpaper and icons. And tint2 works well. bmpanel and pypanel had their own problems. While bmpanel launched properly but had some issues with high CPU usage, don't know why, pypanel never launched from .xinitrc and I had to manually launch it everytime. Tint2 works great. My compiz setup looks really nice now, I'm glad I found this thread.

Personally, I use xfce4-panel and it works greatly. This way I have the workspace switcher, the windows list, the clock and the system tray all in one. The only thing that bothers me so far is the right click menu. How did you solved this? As far as I can see it's possible to map the compiz-deskmenu to the right click but then you loose the ability to do so in the common applications. My intention is to have something fully usable only with the mouse and only with the keyboard so I solved this by putting a launcher in the xfce4-panel. This launcher starts compiz-deskmenu.

sHyLoCk · 2010-01-04 10:19:19

ArchArael wrote:

sHyLoCk wrote:
Hi pogeymanz,
I have compiz with emerald running, gkrellm, conky,etc. I use Rox-Filer to draw wallpaper and icons. And tint2 works well. bmpanel and pypanel had their own problems. While bmpanel launched properly but had some issues with high CPU usage, don't know why, pypanel never launched from .xinitrc and I had to manually launch it everytime. Tint2 works great. My compiz setup looks really nice now, I'm glad I found this thread.
Personally, I use xfce4-panel and it works greatly. This way I have the workspace switcher, the windows list, the clock and the system tray all in one. The only thing that bothers me so far is the right click menu. How did you solved this? As far as I can see it's possible to map the compiz-deskmenu to the right click but then you loose the ability to do so in the common applications. My intention is to have something fully usable only with the mouse and only with the keyboard so I solved this by putting a launcher in the xfce4-panel. This launcher starts compiz-deskmenu.

In Commands-> Button bindings-> Select button 5 and for the respective command put "compiz-deskmenu". Now the menu appears on button 3 scroll down. But that will mean sacrificing scroll down ability so combine it with Alt or some other modifier. I use Ctrl+Button5. I think you already knew this and my post wasn't of any help but anyway that's how I do it.

ArchArael · 2010-01-04 11:09:51

Thank you sHyLoCk, so I didn't miss anything. I have been thinking that I have overlooked some setting but this seems to be a limitation of compiz.

Nagian · 2010-01-04 13:11:45

sHyLoCk wrote:

ArchArael wrote:
sHyLoCk wrote:
Hi pogeymanz,
I have compiz with emerald running, gkrellm, conky,etc. I use Rox-Filer to draw wallpaper and icons. And tint2 works well. bmpanel and pypanel had their own problems. While bmpanel launched properly but had some issues with high CPU usage, don't know why, pypanel never launched from .xinitrc and I had to manually launch it everytime. Tint2 works great. My compiz setup looks really nice now, I'm glad I found this thread.
Personally, I use xfce4-panel and it works greatly. This way I have the workspace switcher, the windows list, the clock and the system tray all in one. The only thing that bothers me so far is the right click menu. How did you solved this? As far as I can see it's possible to map the compiz-deskmenu to the right click but then you loose the ability to do so in the common applications. My intention is to have something fully usable only with the mouse and only with the keyboard so I solved this by putting a launcher in the xfce4-panel. This launcher starts compiz-deskmenu.
In Commands-> Button bindings-> Select button 5 and for the respective command put "compiz-deskmenu". Now the menu appears on button 3 scroll down. But that will mean sacrificing scroll down ability so combine it with Alt or some other modifier. I use Ctrl+Button5. I think you already knew this and my post wasn't of any help but anyway that's how I do it.

I set compiz-deskmenu to <bottomLeftEdge>Button3, so I have the Right-Click-Menu only in the Left-Bottom-Edge. The best solution for me

@topic:
I now also use compiz standalone, and it's really great. Thank you for the tip

There is only one Problem. Games and glxgears are flickering... Is that normal?

sHyLoCk · 2010-01-04 13:15:36

Games and glxgears are flickering... Is that normal?

WHich games? Assaultcube, bloodfrontier, supertux* ,neverball,etc. run fine here.

spookyln · 2010-01-04 13:21:47

flickering ?
if you have Ati and use 'radeon' driver,
try disable PageFlip in xorg.conf if enabled.

this helps me with flickering in Aquaria.
btw: i dont use compiz and kms

Nagian · 2010-01-04 17:58:38

Yeah, I have Ati and the radeon-driver. But i don't have PageFlip enabled.
And the games are supertux and super maryo chronicles. I should mention that the work fine under openbox.

Chokkan · 2010-01-04 18:05:31

I'm also now standing alone with my new buddy Compiz. Thanks for the tips guys.

pogeymanz · 2010-01-04 21:55:09

ArchArael wrote:

sHyLoCk wrote:
Hi pogeymanz,
I have compiz with emerald running, gkrellm, conky,etc. I use Rox-Filer to draw wallpaper and icons. And tint2 works well. bmpanel and pypanel had their own problems. While bmpanel launched properly but had some issues with high CPU usage, don't know why, pypanel never launched from .xinitrc and I had to manually launch it everytime. Tint2 works great. My compiz setup looks really nice now, I'm glad I found this thread.
Personally, I use xfce4-panel and it works greatly. This way I have the workspace switcher, the windows list, the clock and the system tray all in one. The only thing that bothers me so far is the right click menu. How did you solved this? As far as I can see it's possible to map the compiz-deskmenu to the right click but then you loose the ability to do so in the common applications. My intention is to have something fully usable only with the mouse and only with the keyboard so I solved this by putting a launcher in the xfce4-panel. This launcher starts compiz-deskmenu.

This is what you do:
Open Compiz Config
Go to Commands and set compiz-deskmenu to command line x
Do NOT set any key/mouse bindings to launch it
Go to the Viewport Switcher plugin
Go to the last tab: Desktop-based viewport switching
Set "initiate plugin action" to mouse button 3
In the first text box below it, enter "commands" without quotes
In the next text box, enter "run_commandx_key" without quotes and with "x" replaced by the number of the command line above.

Now you have a right-click menu like OB or XFCE

pogeymanz · 2010-01-04 21:56:57

Nagian wrote:

Yeah, I have Ati and the radeon-driver. But i don't have PageFlip enabled.
And the games are supertux and super maryo chronicles. I should mention that the work fine under openbox.

Try enableing/disabling VSync in compiz settings. Also try adjusting the refresh rate manually, etc. Just keep poking it until something happens...

Nagian · 2010-01-04 22:01:31

pogeymanz wrote:

Nagian wrote:
Yeah, I have Ati and the radeon-driver. But i don't have PageFlip enabled.
And the games are supertux and super maryo chronicles. I should mention that the work fine under openbox.
Try enableing/disabling VSync in compiz settings. Also try adjusting the refresh rate manually, etc. Just keep poking it until something happens...

Well, I tried Enabling/Disabling VSync, and the refresh rates 30, 50 and 60, everything without success

pogeymanz · 2010-01-04 22:09:09

Try a refresh rate of 120. Short of that, I don't know how to help you. I have never used ATI cards, sorry.

some-guy94 · 2010-01-04 22:51:07

Nagian wrote:

Yeah, I have Ati and the radeon-driver. But i don't have PageFlip enabled.
And the games are supertux and super maryo chronicles. I should mention that the work fine under openbox.

Make sure you have KMS running, DRI2 only works with KMS with the radeon driver.

Nagian · 2010-01-05 11:35:32

Well, haven't there been a message, that the KMS-Support for Radeon-Cards is broken, until the next mkinitcpio-update?
But after this update I will try it.

ArchArael · 2010-01-05 11:50:47

Thank you very much pogeymanz! That worked very well. Maybe this should be added to the wiki.

sHyLoCk · 2010-01-05 11:54:43

pogeymanz wrote:

This is what you do:
Open Compiz Config
Go to Commands and set compiz-deskmenu to command line x
Do NOT set any key/mouse bindings to launch it
Go to the Viewport Switcher plugin
Go to the last tab: Desktop-based viewport switching
Set "initiate plugin action" to mouse button 3
In the first text box below it, enter "commands" without quotes
In the next text box, enter "run_commandx_key" without quotes and with "x" replaced by the number of the command line above.
Now you have a right-click menu like OB or XFCE

This should be in the wiki. Thanks. Put this on the wiki, or let me know I'll do it.

EDIT: Wait wait wait...has this always been on the wiki?

If it still does not work, enter the Viewport Switcher menu, and change "Plugin for initiate action" to core (NOTE: for versions 0.8.2+ it's 'commands' instead of 'core'), and "Action name for initiate" to run_command0_key.

I think both of us overlooked that part.

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pogeymanz · 2010-01-05 11:56:36

ArchArael wrote:

Thank you very much pogeymanz! That worked very well. Maybe this should be added to the wiki.

No problem. I'll add to the wiki later today (if I remember).

Chokkan · 2010-01-05 12:00:23

Yes, I'm now enjoying my menu. It was a pain to configure but It's all done now, complete with icons. I also added logout and shutdown too.

Is there a "Post your Compiz standalone desktop" thread? Not that mine is much to look at, but . . .

Nagian · 2010-01-05 12:35:27

There is quite an old one, found it while searching for my errors:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=60571

Chokkan · 2010-01-05 13:01:23

Thanks. Would be good if we could get that one going again, as it seems there are a lot of us using it standalone.

Also, I'm using the radeon driver with a Radeon HD4850. Everything runs fine, I didn't have to do any tweaking.

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