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#1 2009-12-04 01:24:29

graysky
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kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

Will the kernel26 package containing 2.6.32 go into [testing] at some point, or is it being testing in a closed to the public fashion?


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#2 2009-12-04 01:30:50

Pierre
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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

Maybe you missed the announcement, but the most recent kernel will only be available to users subscribed to our premium service.

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#3 2009-12-04 01:33:55

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

It always gets there sooner than later, graysky. Lack of patience only makes you an object of devs' mockery ;-)

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#4 2009-12-04 01:45:52

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

graysky - judging from your forum reg date, you've been using Arch for about a year, During that time, there have been four major kernel releases. All of them have been committed to the testing repo for a period of time, before being moved to core. All minor kernel releases during the same period have also been committed to testing before being moved to core. In fact, updates for all packages in the core repo are submitted to testing before being moved to core.

Is it possible you didn't notice any of this happening, in an entire year using Arch?

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#5 2009-12-04 01:57:08

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

Pierre wrote:

Maybe you missed the announcement, but the most recent kernel will only be available to users subscribed to our premium service.

How do I subscribe?


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#6 2009-12-04 02:21:26

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

sand_man wrote:
Pierre wrote:

Maybe you missed the announcement, but the most recent kernel will only be available to users subscribed to our premium service.

How do I subscribe?

Send me a check for $1,000,000 US and I'll send you a shiny new kernel.

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#7 2009-12-04 02:24:57

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

skottish wrote:
sand_man wrote:
Pierre wrote:

Maybe you missed the announcement, but the most recent kernel will only be available to users subscribed to our premium service.

How do I subscribe?

Send me a check for $1,000,000 US and I'll send you a shiny new kernel.

please send me your address, full name, bank account number and any other personal info which you are willing to give away for 10000000 USD  wink

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#8 2009-12-04 03:08:15

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

skottish wrote:
sand_man wrote:
Pierre wrote:

Maybe you missed the announcement, but the most recent kernel will only be available to users subscribed to our premium service.

How do I subscribe?

Send me a check for $1,000,000 US and I'll send you a shiny new kernel.

Could I pay in installments with deductibles for every kernel oops?


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#9 2009-12-04 03:09:22

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

skottish wrote:
sand_man wrote:
Pierre wrote:

Maybe you missed the announcement, but the most recent kernel will only be available to users subscribed to our premium service.

How do I subscribe?

Send me a check for $1,000,000 US and I'll send you a shiny new kernel.

I can pay you in hugs


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#10 2009-12-04 03:15:18

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

ngoonee wrote:
skottish wrote:
sand_man wrote:

How do I subscribe?

Send me a check for $1,000,000 US and I'll send you a shiny new kernel.

Could I pay in installments with deductibles for every kernel oops?

Yikes! That means that I'll owe you millions.

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#11 2009-12-04 04:35:28

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

tomk wrote:

graysky - judging from your forum reg date, you've been using Arch for about a year, During that time, there have been four major kernel releases. All of them have been committed to the testing repo for a period of time, before being moved to core. All minor kernel releases during the same period have also been committed to testing before being moved to core. In fact, updates for all packages in the core repo are submitted to testing before being moved to core.

Is it possible you didn't notice any of this happening, in an entire year using Arch?

He's asking about testing, not core.

At this time there is no kernel26 in [testing], and that's what the OP is asking about.
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?q=kernel26

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#12 2009-12-04 04:37:04

Allan
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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

Pierre wrote:

Maybe you missed the announcement, but the most recent kernel will only be available to users subscribed to our premium service.

I think people took this as a joke.  He was being serious.

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#13 2009-12-04 05:04:21

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

Allan wrote:
Pierre wrote:

Maybe you missed the announcement, but the most recent kernel will only be available to users subscribed to our premium service.

I think people took this as a joke.  He was being serious.

Don't play with my emotions, Allan.


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#14 2009-12-04 10:08:25

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

skottish wrote:
ngoonee wrote:
skottish wrote:

Send me a check for $1,000,000 US and I'll send you a shiny new kernel.

Could I pay in installments with deductibles for every kernel oops?

Yikes! That means that I'll owe you millions.

Glad you noticed smile. Some men in black suits with blacker ties will be along shortly to settle the debt.


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#15 2009-12-04 10:12:52

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

> Some men in black suits with blacker ties will be along shortly to settle the debt.
So that's how the President is going to help w/ the USA National Debt! ;-)

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#16 2009-12-04 10:18:57

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

graysky wrote:

Will the kernel26 package containing 2.6.32 go into [testing] at some point, or is it being testing in a closed to the public fashion?

i've  seen some commits for kernel 2.6.32. devs are working on this. also you might want subscribe to arch-dev-public mailing list.

p.s you want kernel 2.6.32 & co packages to be bug free and being first is not the case with kernel.


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#17 2009-12-04 18:11:24

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

Since you all are having a good time making fun about impatient users, I'll ruin it by asking a real question lol

My self being 'really' impatient, I pulled the kernel-source off kernel.org, and went and built it.
Now, I was just looking for some experimenting, until the 2.6.32 packages make it into testing (they've been committed), but I stumbled across a mayor show-stopper:

Where and how are the 'naming-scemes' for devices defined? Using arch-kernel I get /dev/sdXy, using vanilla I get /dev/hdXy. roll


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#18 2009-12-04 18:14:24

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

skottish wrote:
sand_man wrote:
Pierre wrote:

Maybe you missed the announcement, but the most recent kernel will only be available to users subscribed to our premium service.

How do I subscribe?

Send me a check for $1,000,000 US and I'll send you a shiny new kernel.

Unlike skottish I am much more lenient - just send me your Visa card details and we're done with it.


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#19 2009-12-04 18:32:54

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

@ hungerfish

try kernel26-rc 2.6.32 from the aur, works for me with oldconfig.

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#20 2009-12-04 18:35:26

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

hungerfish wrote:

Since you all are having a good time making fun about impatient users, I'll ruin it by asking a real question lol

My self being 'really' impatient, I pulled the kernel-source off kernel.org, and went and built it.
Now, I was just looking for some experimenting, until the 2.6.32 packages make it into testing (they've been committed), but I stumbled across a mayor show-stopper:

Where and how are the 'naming-scemes' for devices defined? Using arch-kernel I get /dev/sdXy, using vanilla I get /dev/hdXy. roll

Ain't that to do with udev? I think the 2.6.32 kernel has put the functions of udev into the kernel itself so that it doesn't have to rely on udev anymore. Must be an option somewhere in the kernel config to disable the built in function I guess.


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#21 2009-12-04 18:58:18

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

aaaantoine wrote:

At this time there is no kernel26 in [testing], and that's what the OP is asking about.
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?q=kernel26

One thing that attracted me to Arch is the minimal cycle time from when upstream announces it to when it appears as a package. Until recently, I didn't bother with looking in [testing] for stuff -- especially kernels -- I guess I've become more daring now.  I've seen some packages go live same day (most recent firefox for example, but there are other examples too).  Anyway, my post wasn't meant as a joke or as a "hurry up" annoyance, it was a legit question.  No offensive intended.  I'll just keep an eye on [testing] and play with it when it appears.


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#22 2009-12-04 18:59:27

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

Look on projects.archlinux.org, 2.6.32 kernel packaging development has already started smile

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#23 2009-12-04 19:14:07

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/package … 4/PKGBUILD

2.6.32 is commited but not moved in testing yet. big_smile


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#24 2009-12-04 19:42:22

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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

wonder wrote:

http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/package … 4/PKGBUILD

2.6.32 is commited but not moved in testing yet. big_smile

Yoink! thanks.

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#25 2009-12-04 19:55:57

DonVla
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Re: kernel 2.6.32 package not in [testing]?

Pierre wrote:

Maybe you missed the announcement, but the most recent kernel will only be available to users subscribed to our premium service.

Or better, you can put the new kernel package on ebay.

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