the kde-unstable 4.4 issues/discussion thread

Pierre · 2010-01-22 14:04:44

No, you wont need any packages from AUR.

jlacroix · 2010-01-22 14:24:59

Pierre wrote:

No, you wont need any packages from AUR.

What I mean is if I download "packageA" from AUR, and "packageA" gets put into stable, will "packageA" from AUR be replaced by the one in stable automatically?

The reason I ask is because I don't mind having a few games and things from AUR, but I don't want a ton of things to keep track of in the long stretch. I don't mind temporary work arounds though I just want to know if there is anything I will need to do once KDE 4.4 goes into stable to remove unneeded stuff from AUR.

jauntale · 2010-01-22 14:37:28

The normal package update cycle doesn't apply for packages from AUR. After update to stable RC2 those libpng12 and libjpeg7 AUR packages will become redundant because stable will also depend on 14 and 8. You will have to remove the AUR packages manualy.

jlacroix · 2010-01-22 14:50:58

jauntale wrote:

The normal package update cycle doesn't apply for packages from AUR. After update to stable RC2 those libpng12 and libjpeg7 AUR packages will become redundant because stable will also depend on 14 and 8. You will have to remove the AUR packages manualy.

Thank you. I think I'll just not use my computer for now until this gets cleared up. I'm not a fan of using AUR for libraries or things other than the occasional game or app.

gnumdk · 2010-01-22 15:07:18

libpng 14 and libjpeg 8 are in testing...

If some apps fails after this, just update app from testing...

Pierre · 2010-01-23 15:30:20

So, please read http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/ … 15053.html

combuster · 2010-01-23 17:12:00

I really don't have any problems with kde 4.4 RC2 at this moment except with the dekorator (can't resize window except on the upper left corner, on other three corners there is little black transparent square). But it's dekorators incompatibility with qt 4.6 I presume, oxygen works just fine.

Everything else is running great, I get some minor issues with kwin but I guess it's because of xf86-video-intel that is in testing. Great work and I'm very pleased with KDE 4.4 so far.

cuervo · 2010-01-23 19:46:17

combuster wrote:

Everything else is running great, [...] Great work and I'm very pleased with KDE 4.4 so far.

Me too. Everything seems very nice indeed - perversely this makes me want to find some kind of pre-alpha-kde testing to install.

What is it ... to not be happy unless something needs to be fixed?

mutlu_inek · 2010-01-23 20:00:15

Pierre, I think it would be very useful if soprano was built with the sesame backend for 4.4 as well to ensure the migration of nepomuk's data to the virtuoso storage. It won't be a problem for those who use nepomuk and strigi solely for file indexing to start with a clean slate, but those who used nepomuk to tag and rate would lose their data. The sesame backend could be abandoned after 4.4, though.

Edit: I will open a bug report as well. Sorry for the noise.

Last edited by mutlu_inek (2010-01-23 20:01:56)

jlacroix · 2010-01-26 14:45:15

For some reason I am unable to mount USB flash drives. Are any of you having issues with that as well?

Pierre · 2010-01-26 15:30:37

Works fine here. Are you using kdm?

jlacroix · 2010-01-26 15:47:41

Pierre wrote:

Works fine here. Are you using kdm?

Yes, that is correct.

sjakub · 2010-01-27 07:41:22

Hi!

Thanks for the great job Pierre, everything looks great

I had only one issue (so far) while updating to [kde-unstable] (except from having to remove virtuoso-opensource which is AUR package, and removing qt due to phonon/qt dependency issues, which is mentioned on the wiki):
/usr/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindKDevPlatform.cmake file is both in kdelibs from [kde-unstable] and in kdevplatform from [extra].
So one of them will have to drop it

BTW - Mounting of USB drives works fine here and I am using kdm.

Last edited by sjakub (2010-01-27 07:45:15)

drsjlazar · 2010-01-27 11:32:16

Hi all,

Running the following command shows that there are a number of packages that I have installed for the 4.3.4 release that are not available in (or for) the kde-unstable repos.

pacman -Qs kde | grep -v "^ " | grep -v "kdemod" | cut -d "/" -f2| cut -d " " -f1 | while read line ; do echo "-----------" ; echo "Searching for $line" ; yaourt -Ss --textonly $line | grep "kde-unstable/" ; done

Notable packages include kdeplasma-applets-networkmanager, kdenlive, ktorrent, kdedecor-aurorae, kbluetooth, amarok. Would there be issues with these applications if I keep the current versions and upgraded the rest of the kde packages?

combuster · 2010-01-27 13:00:50

No problems at all, amarok, ktorrent and many other are not parts of the kde group, networkmanager-applet should be and I think that by the time 4.4 gets ready it will be included also...

Pierre · 2010-01-27 13:11:19

The network manager applet is still in alpha state and is not part of KDE SC.

Wu · 2010-01-27 13:21:27

I have an issue with the nepomuk/strigi indexer.

some seconds after the indexer is enabled (from systemsettings) it stops to preserve system resources (so says the notification) and the strigi status goes to idle. If I restart the indexer manually it restarts indexing files but stops again after few seconds. My AC adapter is always plugged in. Any advice on what may cause this behavior?

Last edited by Wu (2010-01-27 13:22:28)

Pierre · 2010-01-27 13:26:55

My experience is that it will start indexing after a while for some time, pause for some time and so on. It wont index everything in one run. I guess this should prevent any slowdowns while working.

drsjlazar · 2010-01-27 14:23:07

Pierre wrote:

The network manager applet is still in alpha state and is not part of KDE SC.

Thanks for the replies. Will the current version of the network manager applet work with 4.4? I wouldn't want to find myself with broken networking...

flamelab · 2010-01-27 16:07:20

Pierre, have you found any solutions for the polkit errors in systemsettings ? :S

mutlu_inek · 2010-01-28 03:20:19

Pierre wrote:

My experience is that it will start indexing after a while for some time, pause for some time and so on. It wont index everything in one run. I guess this should prevent any slowdowns while working.

Also, it will suspend as soon as there is any significant cpu or i/o usage. You could just leave your computer running over night and it should do all the indexing.

If you get any Strigi crashes, try a more recent version from svn. There have been a few fixes, but no new release yet.

Pierre · 2010-01-28 03:46:44

flamelab wrote:

Pierre, have you found any solutions for the polkit errors in systemsettings ? :S

We dropped policykit-0.9 support in favor of polkit-1. K3B (for KDE4) is in alpha state anyway and should not be used.

wantilles · 2010-01-28 08:38:30

Pierre wrote:

K3B (for KDE4) is in alpha state anyway and should not be used.

I think you are wrong in that.

I have been building (and using) k3b KDE 4.x svn revisions for the last four mothns.

It is rock-solid, stable, and reliable.

Last edited by wantilles (2010-01-28 08:38:59)

Pierre · 2010-01-28 12:43:19

I am just quoting upstream here.

funkyou · 2010-01-28 17:08:12

wantilles wrote:

It is rock-solid, stable, and reliable.

Not for everyone. I have seen numerous forum threads about problems with k3b...

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