( Not Solved) Arch user comming from Ubuntu

wbeyda · 2010-01-13 17:51:17

I'm a Ubuntu user and recently installed Arch (after the 6th attempt btw) And just wondering about somethings I used in Ubuntu and if there is an equivalent for Archlinux?

Ubuntu-restricted-extras (flash, java, gstreamer)
jockey-gtk (3d-acceleration)
compiz (spinnin cubez lulz!)
Add/Remove / Synaptic Package manager (or a graphical package manager? does this exist or do I have do a ls /usr/sbin to know what I have and what I don't?)
gnome-network-manager-applet (can't place one in the panel for some reason?!? you know right click > add to panel > network manager ? yeah its not there so I'm affraid to unplug the ethernet cable.)

Other than that I'm already seeing a 30-40% speed increase in Arch on my Toshiba Satellite. And GRUB is booting in about 10 seconds rather then 45. having a slight trouble with the customization script for the Hydroxygen Icon Pack but I'll just reinstall the pack.

Last edited by wbeyda (2010-01-13 23:49:37)

Ashren · 2010-01-13 18:03:22

First of all there is no default graphical package manager for Arch. There is pacman. Have you read the beginners guide? If not read it: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide

pacman -S flashplugin jre gstreamer0.10-plugins

will install what you call ubuntu-restricted-extras.

Read the wiki, use pacman and forget ubuntu while you're doing it.

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wbeyda · 2010-01-13 18:15:27

So how does everyone maintain their packages? one at a time? Also what about the Network manager I thought that was GNOME not Ubunutu. Why can't I add to a panel?

Ashren · 2010-01-13 18:18:35

Use pacman.

Upgrade system:

pacman -Syu

Search package

pacman -Ss network-manager

Read beginners guide: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide

wbeyda · 2010-01-13 18:23:29

So upgrading the system via pacman -Syu upgrades all my packages? yes I installed network-manager and have not been able to add it to a panel.

lucke · 2010-01-13 18:28:13

Yes, "pacman -Syu" updates your system.

Execute "pacman -S network-manager-applet" and then press Alt-F2 and write "nm-applet" to start the networkmanager applet.

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SleepyFloyd · 2010-01-13 18:29:33

Which desktop are you using?

Install network-manager-applet for gnome, kdeplasma-applets-networkmanager for KDE. (Here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Net … p_2:_GUIs)

Ashren · 2010-01-13 18:33:38

Yes you have installed networkmanager, but have you installed network-manager-applet?

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_manager

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta

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robrene · 2010-01-13 18:37:39

That's because network-manager doesn't have a panel applet, it has a notification applet. To start it do:

$ nm-applet --sm-disable

If you want to see what packages you have installed, do:

$ pacman -Ql

I recommend you take a closer look at the Beginners' Guide and the Beginner's Guide Appendix. You seem to expect Arch to be like Ubuntu a lot, but it's not.

An example: In Ubuntu, the network-manager is installed for you, Ubuntu will make sure it runs at every boot and that the icon gets displayed in your panel automatically (if I remember correctly that is). Pacman will only install the program files to their correct location. If you want to set it up to actually manage your network and start at every boot and whatnot, read the ArchWiki article about it. Essentially, almost everything you want to set up can be found in the ArchWiki as long as you search for it.

wbeyda · 2010-01-13 18:54:17

ok thanks alot guys I'll try all of this as soon as I get home.

wbeyda · 2010-01-13 19:04:36

how do I change the status of this post to solved?

lucke · 2010-01-13 19:13:17

Edit the first post.

IgnorantGuru · 2010-01-13 20:04:26

There are some graphical frontends for pacman (so I was told), but it's good to master pacman first I believe. yaourt is good to check out for AUR use.

For pacman, it's handy to add some aliases to your ~/.bashrc file. Here's what I use...

alias pmc='sudo pacman -Sy && pacman -Qu'
alias pmi='sudo pacman --needed -Sy'
alias pmq='pacman -Q'
alias pmqi='pacman -Qi'
alias pmql='pacman -Ql'
alias pmr='sudo pacman -Rs'
alias pms='pacman -Ss'
alias pmu='sudo pacman -Sy && sudo pacman -Su'

So for example to search for firefox I just enter 'pms firefox'

For network managers, I really liked wicd that I installed on my netbook (with LXDE).
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wicd

wbeyda · 2010-01-13 20:18:03

I ran LXDE for a few weeks and really liked it. If only I could get a good icon pack for it I think I would switch from GNOME. Because it goes vroom vroom! But I can make gnome look really good and on a minimal install not so bloated. So its a small sacrifice for added comfort.

IgnorantGuru · 2010-01-13 20:23:16

wbeyda wrote:

I ran LXDE for a few weeks and really liked it. If only I could get a good icon pack for it I think I would switch from GNOME. Because it goes vroom vroom! But I can make gnome look really good and on a minimal install not so bloated. So its a small sacrifice for added comfort.

I installed crystal cursors with LXDE which I like (I can provide links if needed). I actually like the way LXDE looks, but I like things simple. Also note that you can put a gtk theme in your home folder that will be used by gnome and gtk apps. I added a few icons too.

I've never really used gnome seriously - was always a KDE guy (Kubuntu) until KDE4 drove me to Arch/Openbox.

wbeyda · 2010-01-13 21:27:39

I came from a Design background so I'm really picky about things like that.

Profjim · 2010-01-13 21:32:34

Does anyone else find the current title of this thread:

(Solved) Arch user comming from Ubuntu

hilarious. (Sounds like we sent him running away.)

Misfit138 · 2010-01-13 21:36:08

wbeyda wrote:

I came from a Design background so I'm really picky about things like that.

Then check out the screenie thread.
You may get some good ideas, inspiration and information. And welcome to Arch.

IgnorantGuru · 2010-01-13 21:48:07

Profjim wrote:

Does anyone else find the current title of this thread:
(Solved) Arch user comming from Ubuntu
hilarious. (Sounds like we sent him running away.)

lol - It's happened before!

wbeyda · 2010-01-13 23:49:12

k guys I'm home and I did everything you recommended and I'm getting this error:

** (nm-applet:2082): WARNING **: <WARN> request_name(): Could not acquire the session service as it is already taken. Return: 3

** (nm-applet:2082): WARNING **: <WARN> constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.

wbeyda · 2010-01-14 00:23:49

On boot HAL isn't found either. And the Hydroxygen customization script is not working. This is turning into a total sh**storm!

wbeyda · 2010-01-14 00:45:05

I installed wcid from http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wicd but now I'm getting a dbus error : cannot connect to wicd's D-Bus interface. Check the wcid's log for errors. I don't know where the stupid error log is. And it looks like I'm just posting to myself tonight.

wonder · 2010-01-14 00:48:38

post DAEMONS from rc.conf and describe the way you are logging in gnome

IgnorantGuru · 2010-01-14 00:54:38

Well I'm no expert being new to Arch myself, but I assume you've added hal and/or dbus to your daemons in rc.conf? Maybe check if dbus is running and also run qdbus and see if it lists wicd. Also note that you're not supposed to run more than one network manager at a time, so you may need to disable something.

What happens if you run

/etc/rc.d/dbus start
/etc/rc.d/hal start

Error logs are in /var/log I don't remember having any trouble with it so I didn't do any troubleshooting.

I do recommend doing one thing at a time with Arch, and patiently. If you get too many things boiling its going to be trouble.

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wbeyda · 2010-01-14 01:09:18

I edited my /etc/rc.conf and rebooted and now I have a network manager OMG!! don't remember what I did exactly but it worked and I don't care cause now I can unplug the ethernet cable! woot! woot! Now on to the Hydroxygen Icon Pack script . . .

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