What happened to tvtime?

thefatprecious · 2010-01-24 17:21:29

It's no longer found in the AUR, and I don't see it in any of the other repo's or notes about it's recent status in the forums. Why was it deleted instead of just being orphaned? Or am I just missing something obvious here?

Ultraman · 2010-01-24 19:24:05

Wow, indeed where is it? I used it on another box not that long ago, worked fine perfectly.
In AUR there is: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24031

Grrr, I don't longer have that other box here... So I don't have the package. Perhaps it's still on an old version mirror like schlunix.

[Edit]
Yup, schlunix still has it:
i686: http://www.schlunix.org/archlinux/extra … pkg.tar.gz
x86_64: http://www.schlunix.org/archlinux/extra … pkg.tar.gz

Last edited by Ultraman (2010-01-24 19:25:51)

wonder · 2010-01-24 19:37:37

tvtime was removed from repos 5 days ago. i think is because it didn't built against libjpeg/libpng and was unmaintained upstream

Last edited by wonder (2010-01-25 15:28:15)

thefatprecious · 2010-01-25 00:52:58

Being a heavy user of it, that really sucks....I'm under the opinion that there isn't another tv app even remotely comparable in linux.

Being that I already have it installed, what are the odds that it continues to function over time?

eldragon · 2010-01-25 02:34:05

like they said. it does not build against libjpeg/libjpng so when the next stream of updates come along...it will break.

thefatprecious · 2010-01-25 02:44:40

I'm assuming you mean libpng.

I understand that it won't build against the lib in the future but it would be helpful if someone could explain why a previously built package like the one currently installed would be impacted.

skottish · 2010-01-25 03:01:27

Disclaimer: I don't use this software. In fact, I don't even watch television.

I just grabbed the PKGBUILD and files from above to see where the build was failing and it compiled fine. Then I went to start it and it starts fine.

thefatprecious · 2010-01-25 14:43:42

I guess that means that it's still a mystery as to why it was removed. Is there anyway to see who removed it so they can clarify?

hbekel · 2010-01-25 15:23:00

thefatprecious wrote:

I understand that it won't build against the lib in the future but it would be helpful if someone could explain why a previously built package like the one currently installed would be impacted.

Because the installed binary is still explicitly linked against the version of the lib that was present when the program was compiled. If the library version is increased, then the library file gets replaced by a file with a different version number, but the old binary will still request the (now missing) previous version.

Note that a rebuild will only fail if the libraries api changes in a substantial way that makes the code incompatible with the new api (e.g. changes function names or arguments, removes functions completely, etc.) If this is not the case, a simply rebuild will be sufficient to make the program work with a new library version.

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wonder · 2010-01-25 17:24:20

the reason was remove is that is not building anymore(not because of libpng) and the last version released was in 2005.

Gusar · 2010-01-25 18:52:20

The folks at kernellabs, particularly Devin Heitmueller, are working on modernizing tvtime. The latest blog post says progress is slow currently. But there should be a modern tvtime in the near future.

thefatprecious · 2010-01-25 21:08:25

wonder wrote:

tvtime was removed from repos 5 days ago. i think is because it didn't built against libjpeg/libpng and was unmaintained upstream

I'm confused by this since skottish mentioned that he is able to still build this.

Either way couldn't this have just been pushed to the AUR for someone to adopt and maintain if they so choose instead of just removing it without any kind of notice/warning?

Thanks for the responses...I know this is just a small tv app but it scares me a bit to think what could happen in the future to other pkgs if a similar process is/is not followed.

wonder · 2010-01-25 21:11:03

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33955

thefatprecious · 2010-01-26 01:29:01

wonder wrote:

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33955

Thanks wonder. I adopted and updated it with this patch: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=de … tid=506987

It compiles successfully.

mvdvarrier · 2010-01-26 02:30:43

Hai friends

I am very sad to know that tvtime has been removed from repositories. From my experience it is one of the linux software that did not crash even once in my pc's. Absoloutely light on resources and full lirc support for remotes. I am not a programmer but an end user with very limited computing knowledge. I hope some one can find a way to revive it.
With great disappointment
mvdvarrier

thefatprecious · 2010-02-05 22:06:40

@mvdvarrier: In case the previous posts were confusing, it's been moved to the AUR here: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33955

Also, if anyone is nervous about the libpng 1.4.0-2 update affecting it, it does not appear to. I updated today (finally) and it still compiles/runs successfully.

milomak · 2010-02-05 22:32:43

i can also confirm that a rebuild got it working after my last system upgrade.

Did yaourt -S tvtime

mvdvarrier · 2010-02-13 13:27:15

Hello,
With the latest upgrade the tvtime stopped working with an error message showing the absense of libpng12.so.0. I am not sure whether it is a correct proceeding or not. I just copied from a 64bit ubuntu-9.10 installation in the same machine that mounted in a folder /mnt/y.
#cp -a /mnt/y/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0.37.0 /usr/lib/
#cp -a /mnt/y/usr/lib/libpng12.a /usr/lib/
#ln -s /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0.37.0 /usr/lib/libpng12.so
# ln -s /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0.37.0 /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0
tvtime worked without any error message.Moreover it now works better with the uasge of less resources! Any how I want to know whether there is any danger in the above procedure.
thanks in advance
mvdvarrier

Last edited by mvdvarrier (2010-02-13 13:31:00)

leepesjee · 2010-02-13 13:41:47

mvdvarrier,
Messing around with libraries is a bad habit and will kick you in the ass one day or another.
Tvtime needs to be recompiled to the new libpng library, thats all. It's best to 'undo' your changes to /usr/lib and rebuild and install tvtime from AUR, http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33955

thefatprecious · 2010-05-25 14:49:33

Got a notification that it was moved back to the repos today....thanks sergej

from    aur-notify@archlinux.org
reply-to    nobody@archlinux.org
to    
date    Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:40 AM
subject    AUR Comment for tvtime
mailed-by    sigurd.archlinux.org
    
"from http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33955
sergej wrote:

moved to community"

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