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#101 2010-02-03 01:38:05

lilsirecho
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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

An observation concerning the latest libjpeg and libpng upgrades to many packages.

I assume that downloading via pacman for many programs using the new changes will be incompatible with the existing ArchBang packages (in some areas).  Unless the -104 ArchBang includes the upgrades.

Maybe true maybe not?


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#102 2010-02-03 02:46:02

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Yes 1.04 will have new upgrades.
Added a small entry to wiki, I believe this is enough for now? Feel free to edit.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arc … s#ArchBang

Last edited by sHyLoCk (2010-02-03 04:51:51)


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#103 2010-02-03 04:58:50

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Shylock;

Thanks for the encouraging words.

Perhaps I am wrong, again!, but I do not see a five second wait during the boot sequence to allow USB devices to settle.

I have examined dmesg and also watched the sequence run by and there is no pause for USB AFAICT.

In my machine, there is a 23 second delay for floppy disk which I do not have in my system...there is a connector but it isn't connected to anything.

This would explain my inability to get repeatable performance from my USB audio.EDIT:  The lack of 5 second delay, that is...............

I will study the wiki and surely appreciate the support you have given to this project.  My x86_64 runs but has the aforementioned problems and also the i686 version has the same.

Hoping to have a persistent system by my 85th birthday in August.

Mahalo....

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#104 2010-02-03 06:57:44

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

I'll try:
MODULES=(!floppy !fd0)

Working on it, and will see the usbdelay issue.


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#105 2010-02-03 07:36:28

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Well had a quick look and these packages are one that stand out

gimp
gtkmm
ghostscript
jre
qt
python ?
smbclient

Package size of gimp is 17mb installed size is 57mb would it be better to load gimp from package after Archbang has booted up?


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#106 2010-02-03 07:42:51

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Hmm not sure about removing jre, I'll talk to Will about it. But the rest of the stuffs gone. Here's the new list:

aufs2
aufs2-util
base
bash
coreutils
cpio
dhcpcd
dnsutils
file
fuse
kernel26
nano
syslinux

alsa-utils
alsa-oss
dbus
hal
netcfg
notification-daemon
sudo
volwheel
wicd
wireless_tools
xf86-input-evdev
xf86-input-synaptics
xf86-video-vesa
xorg
zenity

lxappearance
openbox
obconf
obmenu
obkey-dev

conky

tint2

nitrogen

thunar

chromium

gpicview
scrot

vlc

file-roller
gedit
gmrun
gparted
packer

flashplugin
gstreamer0.10-bad
gstreamer0.10-bad-plugins
gstreamer0.10-good
gstreamer0.10-good-plugins
gstreamer0.10-ugly
gstreamer0.10-ugly-plugins
gstreamer0.10-base
gstreamer0.10-base-plugins
gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
jre
ttf-ms-fonts
ttf-dejavu
ttf-bitstream-vera

Currently target size is ~470Mb

Last edited by sHyLoCk (2010-02-03 07:45:10)


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#107 2010-02-03 07:51:15

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Why have both netcfg and wicd?

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#108 2010-02-03 08:36:54

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

What else depends on gtkmm? other than Nitrogen

~470mb is good 256mb would be better but you know early days yet

Cannot wait to test installer cool


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#109 2010-02-03 09:24:27

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

What else depends on gtkmm?

Gparted, which is essential for our installer. The installer may not be ready for 1.04 which we are working with priority to making it more lighter. So we'll need more time to work on the installer scripts.

Why have both netcfg and wicd?

Removed.


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#110 2010-02-03 10:16:03

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

ok got it now... you know there is always cfdisk


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#111 2010-02-03 15:40:31

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

sHyLoCk wrote:

Why have both netcfg and wicd?

Removed.

Which one? I didn't suggest you need to remove both.

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#112 2010-02-03 17:11:05

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

anonymous_user wrote:

Which one?

netcfg has been removed. It was a "backup solution" in case wicd caused issues but wicd is doing good big_smile

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#113 2010-02-04 10:29:34

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

.:Mr Green:. wrote:
willxtreme wrote:
sHyLoCk wrote:

Is the wiki entry already created?

For the wiki should I edit archiso page or create a whole new page for ArchBang

New page please

Created a separate wiki page: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ArchBang


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#114 2010-02-04 11:04:10

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Mr Green wrote:

I do not like comparing distros/livecds but Knoppix had full KDE and then some what on earth is making Archbang so large????

Knoppix has -dev packages :/

e: by that I mean that Debian splits and Arch doesn't.

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#115 2010-02-04 11:23:07

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

ArchBang 1.04 is out in the wild both 32bit & 64bit versions! big_smile:D
Please check your ISO's md5sum
1786095522010020412652848461280x800scrot.png
Changes:
-We went "lite mode" by stripping off packages so the iso just 445MB
-Floppy disabled in modules
-USB delay changed from 5 to 8
-Chromium instead of Firefox
-New look
-Added Centerim & irssi & catfish & parcellite
-leafpad instead of gedit

ENJOYYYYYYYYY and give us your feedback!

For the next releases:
-An installer
-Your comments will help us see what else could be improved

And there's now a wiki entry big_smile

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#116 2010-02-04 11:48:09

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

The 32bit is 445Mb, 64bit is 464MB to be more precise.


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#117 2010-02-04 12:35:26

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

big_smile
Being a former #! user and having switched to Arch meanwhile, I love the idea of Archbang. Thanks to Will and everyone who helped !!!
This will go to my harddrive as soon as the installer is finished.


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#118 2010-02-04 15:47:27

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

When downloaded the size is 721.4 MB. An added advantage if this is persistent to carry with usb disk.

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#119 2010-02-04 16:04:03

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Running 1.04 amazing

Thunar vs Pcmanfm?????

love new terminal.........

Way to go!!!!!!

Where can I donate?

MrG


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#120 2010-02-04 16:10:21

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

kgas wrote:

When downloaded the size is 721.4 MB.

Seriously? yikes

@ .:Mr Green:.

Thanks for your encouraging words. smile

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#121 2010-02-04 16:53:02

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

wow you guys are doing great so looking forward to the version with installer
very great work indeed all you guys thats putting your time into this

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#122 2010-02-04 18:46:18

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Since you're going the super lightweight way (irssi and centerim) why not trim off Thunar and File-Roller too? Just put vifm and vim. vim can browse archives

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#123 2010-02-04 19:35:50

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

But would people using the Live CD know how to use vim and vifm?

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#124 2010-02-04 19:47:03

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

If centerim and irssi are initiutive enough, vim and vifm are too tongue
imo

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#125 2010-02-04 23:46:12

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

hay when you get it all final send me a message i will hook you guys up with some hosting for this

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