[SOLVED] HAL doesn't work, so I can't suspend/hibernate?

Nullw0rm · 2010-01-28 16:48:54

I've placed (atleast what I think) to be the necessary daemons in rc.conf:

DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus md fam hal alsa network netfs crond)

FAM for XFCE..

When I run the suspend command, it states
"Failed to suspend: Suspend and hibernate are only supported by HAL and is not available."

#sudo /etc/rc.d/hal start:

:: Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer [FAIL]

This happens in root, and when I attempt to start and stop it....

It took endless configurations to get ndiswrapper to work, I've changed only but files required for network, why could hal not work? I can't find much online about how to fix it, and what steps there are if it fails to restart..

Last edited by Nullw0rm (2010-01-30 05:42:58)

barzam · 2010-01-28 16:57:28

What's the suspend command you are using?

Also, try stopping HAL before you start it or pass the restart option, like

 sudo /etc/rc.d/hal restart

Have you checked and double checked that you set-up HAL correctly as presented in the wiki?
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HAL … _Configure

sHyLoCk · 2010-01-28 17:08:59

Remove dbus, put hal after syslog and remove fam as well. Install gamin instead. This won't help in your issue, but just thought I'd point it out.

patroclo7 · 2010-01-28 17:41:52

Upgrade to a recent development version of pm-utils: hal is not needed anymore.
http://pm-utils.freedesktop.org/release … rc3.tar.gz
The so-called "quirks" are not needed in many cases (if you are running: nvidia drivers; ati drivers; KMS with any driver), otherwise here they are:
http://pm-utils.freedesktop.org/release … 205.tar.gz

Last edited by patroclo7 (2010-01-28 17:47:41)

Doehni · 2010-01-28 18:16:51

Try putting the network and netfs daemons before fam and hal.
Something like this:

DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus md alsa network netfs crond fam hal)

Hope it helps!

Nullw0rm · 2010-01-29 03:03:01

Doehni wrote:

Try putting the network and netfs daemons before fam and hal.
Something like this:
DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus md alsa network netfs crond fam hal)
Hope it helps!

I tried this and it..sorta works, restarting HAL:

[me@myhost ~]$ sudo /etc/rc.d/hal restart
:: Stopping Hardware Abstraction Layer                                   [DONE] 
:: Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer                                   [DONE]

(DONE instead of FAIL)
But going to suspend/hibernate it says HAL is not available still! I seem to not be able to set it up so well..

It says I already have pm-utils, but I ahead and installed that anyway (assuming mine wasn't dev release).

I can suspend with

$ sudo pm-suspend

But when I resume video doesn't start, my screen is black (not displaying black, more like off).. I'm on a laptop with an intel X3000 graphics chip, not a PC in case that helps.

Help

Last edited by Nullw0rm (2010-01-29 03:05:55)

Nullw0rm · 2010-01-29 20:51:21

Any suggestions?

patroclo7 · 2010-01-29 22:03:23

Is KMS enabled in your system?

Nullw0rm · 2010-01-30 05:42:41

patroclo7 wrote:

Is KMS enabled in your system?

I followed an example to enable it, and pm-suspend works!

Thanks for all your help, glad it could actually be resolved eventually.

patroclo7 · 2010-01-30 08:16:33

Nice. Actually the effect of KMS is that pm-suspend skips any hardware-specific quirks and suspend and resume the video as it is. So probably your hardware is actually perfectly supported for suspension already at the kernel level.

skygunner · 2010-02-18 12:12:55

Hi, I guess you get this error
"Failed to suspend: Suspend and hibernate are only supported by HAL and is not available."
because you logged into xfce as normal user right? And the default hal configuration file doesn't allow a normal user to call the suspend
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf
You can try to suspend if you login as root, should work. hal.conf can be adjusted for this error.
Anyway install pm-utils could do suspend as well.

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[SOLVED] HAL doesn't work, so I can't suspend/hibernate?

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