how to make extended

oGRE2080 · 2010-02-03 03:14:17

hola ! I've just got hp-3065dx and the latest arch distr. win7 is installed on laptop, i will keep it for Ipod
but I want to settle up on arch
My fs looks like this

I moved all free space to the end of hdd, but when I start Live CD setup
I choose manually preapare hdd
/Dev/SDA
then running cfdisk
and I see that 396 gig is unusable :mad:WTF??

I guess this is the answer

lamegaptop wrote:

1. Four primary partitions are the max one can have on a HD. To have more than 4 partions one must use extended partitions.
Some reading - http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beg … ard_Drives

but I've got no clue how I can make the 5th like extented. help please

mcmillan · 2010-02-03 03:58:41

One of the four primary partitions needs to be extended, then you can divide that one up into other multiple partitions

sand_man · 2010-02-03 05:48:37

D: and F: look like a waste of partitions if you ask me...
I would at least remove F: and extend to to install Arch.
My opinion only. Completely up to you what you do.

oGRE2080 · 2010-02-06 03:13:14

sand_man wrote:

D: and F: look like a waste of partitions if you ask me...
I would at least remove F: and extend to to install Arch.
My opinion only. Completely up to you what you do.

I did like U told me, then I should made other logical partiotion
1st is / like 10 gig
2nd / home all free space

3rd ?? I gues I can't make it coz only 4 allowed, but anyway with 4 gig of RAM I don't need swap drive
is that correct?

oGRE2080 · 2010-02-06 03:47:45

I did all those my steps %)

now my fs looks like this, everything was okey during the installation, buy when I did the reboot win7 was loaded,
I've installed grub on sda3 - my / partition, and but the way when I was done with my linux partitions, installation gives me some kind of warring that / + boot is on the same drive,
should I install grun on sda1 ? but it's ntfs o_O. thanks

kaivalagi · 2010-02-06 12:14:43

oGRE2080 wrote:

I did all those my steps %)
http://s2.share.te.ua/114317/jk4704wui9.png
now my fs looks like this, everything was okey during the installation, buy when I did the reboot win7 was loaded,
I've installed grub on sda3 - my / partition, and but the way when I was done with my linux partitions, installation gives me some kind of warring that / + boot is on the same drive,
should I install grun on sda1 ? but it's ntfs o_O. thanks

You either need an alternative boot process/manager installed into the mbr which can point to grub on sda3 (I used system commander in a past life) or you need to setup grub on sda1...if on sda1 grub will kick in on boot and point to files on sda3 for the boot process (e.g. /boot/grub/menu.lst). The fact that sda1 is NTFS makes no difference.

I use grub setup against the default first partition, and I have Win7 NTFS on sda1, Arch EXT4 on sda2, Rescue EXT2 on sda3 (still playing with that) and an extended partition for the rest of the space on that drive. My home partition is on another drive altogether.

Hope that helps

Last edited by kaivalagi (2010-02-06 12:16:33)

oGRE2080 · 2010-02-07 00:52:26

kaivalagi wrote:

oGRE2080 wrote:
I did all those my steps %)
http://s2.share.te.ua/114317/jk4704wui9.png
now my fs looks like this, everything was okey during the installation, buy when I did the reboot win7 was loaded,
I've installed grub on sda3 - my / partition, and but the way when I was done with my linux partitions, installation gives me some kind of warring that / + boot is on the same drive,
should I install grun on sda1 ? but it's ntfs o_O. thanks
You either need an alternative boot process/manager installed into the mbr which can point to grub on sda3 (I used system commander in a past life) or you need to setup grub on sda1...if on sda1 grub will kick in on boot and point to files on sda3 for the boot process (e.g. /boot/grub/menu.lst). The fact that sda1 is NTFS makes no difference.
I use grub setup against the default first partition, and I have Win7 NTFS on sda1, Arch EXT4 on sda2, Rescue EXT2 on sda3 (still playing with that) and an extended partition for the rest of the space on that drive. My home partition is on another drive altogether.
Hope that helps

ok. thx. I will try to install grub on sda1 i hope that will not kill win7

raf_kig · 2010-02-07 01:25:03

kaivalagi wrote:

You either need an alternative boot process/manager installed into the mbr which can point to grub on sda3 (I used system commander in a past life) or you need to setup grub on sda1...if on sda1 grub will kick in on boot and point to files on sda3 for the boot process (e.g. /boot/grub/menu.lst). The fact that sda1 is NTFS makes no difference.

What the heck are you talking about? You can just install grub into /dev/sda's mbr and use /dev/sdaX as boot/root (wherever your stageX grub files reside)
there is no need for installing it on the first partition

and you can add a swap partition if you feel like it, the limitation is 4 _primary_ partitions, there is no trouble with adding a swap partition inside your extended one

sand_man · 2010-02-07 02:09:21

raf_kig is right. Because Windows installs it's bootloader on the MBR, you will need to install grub on the MBR to overwrite it because the MBR is read before the first partition.

kaivalagi · 2010-02-07 09:08:02

raf_kig wrote:

kaivalagi wrote:
You either need an alternative boot process/manager installed into the mbr which can point to grub on sda3 (I used system commander in a past life) or you need to setup grub on sda1...if on sda1 grub will kick in on boot and point to files on sda3 for the boot process (e.g. /boot/grub/menu.lst). The fact that sda1 is NTFS makes no difference.
What the heck are you talking about? You can just install grub into /dev/sda's mbr and use /dev/sdaX as boot/root (wherever your stageX grub files reside)
there is no need for installing it on the first partition

That's what I meant at the time, that's for correcting my very bad interpretation (sda1 => sda, and when I say grub on sda3 I mean the grub files). I'm going away to read http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub to get back in touch with reality

If / is on sda3 then, start grub setup:

sudo grub

instruct grub the root files are here (sda3 = hd2,0):

grub> root (hd2,0)

install grub bootloader into sda mbr:

grub> setup (hd0)

Sorry for any confusion caused

Last edited by kaivalagi (2010-02-07 09:19:13)

raf_kig · 2010-02-07 14:34:03

kaivalagi wrote:

Sorry for any confusion caused

No need to apologize, sorry for being a tad aggressive up there.

kaivalagi · 2010-02-07 14:44:46

raf_kig wrote:

kaivalagi wrote:
Sorry for any confusion caused
No need to apologize, sorry for being a tad aggressive up there.

I needed the "what the heck" , I'm getting sloppy in my old(er) age

oGRE2080 · 2010-02-18 02:06:09

never mind, I killed that 7

kaivalagi · 2010-02-18 21:47:15

oGRE2080 wrote:

never mind, I killed that 7

Delibrately I hope

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