I need a keyring (that works with network-manager)

dauerbaustelle · 2010-02-07 13:46:29

Hi there,

I'm new to Arch linux (coming from Ubuntu) and I'm wondering how to set up a keyring that works with that gnome-network-manager applet and ssh(fs). I previously used GNOME and the gnome keyring, and all out of the box.

I couldn't find any manuals on how to set up the gnome-keyring in Arch linux, neither regarding ssh(fs) nor network-manager. I read people are complaining about network-manager asking for the keyring-unlocking-password, but this doesn't happen for me.

How do I set up the gnome-keyring propertly?

ammon · 2010-02-07 14:51:22

Switch to wicd?

siriusb · 2010-02-07 14:57:06

If I remember correctly, wicd stores passwords as plain text.

dauerbaustelle · 2010-02-07 15:01:28

...and it wouldn't solve the ssh-problem

moljac024 · 2010-02-07 16:54:55

siriusb wrote:

If I remember correctly, wicd stores passwords as plain text.

Seriously? Wow, that's a major drawback...

siriusb · 2010-02-07 17:14:58

moljac024:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/377471

Edit:
dauerbaustelle, have you seen this? http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/Ssh

Last edited by siriusb (2010-02-07 17:19:24)

dauerbaustelle · 2010-02-07 19:43:16

siriusb, yes I have, but I can't get the keyring working at all...

siriusb · 2010-02-08 08:20:17

Is the daemon running? Help says to
gnome-keyring-daemon --components=ssh

Just an idea, I installed cgmail which set up a keyring for me. You may want to check it out to have a keyring at all.

Last edited by siriusb (2010-02-08 08:34:06)

dauerbaustelle · 2010-02-09 17:06:52

It seems like it isn't running, even not after I started it manually. gnome-keyring-manager keeps telling me that the daemon is not running, but I have several keyring daemon processes running (I can tell you the PID )

Neither Seahorse (that GNOME password management tool) recognizes the keyring.

hw-tph · 2010-02-09 17:22:32

You need to export the variables set by gnome-keyring-daemon.
I have this in my ~/.xinitrc:

eval $(gnome-keyring-daemon)
export GNOME_KEYRING_PID GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET SSH_AUTH_SOCK

dauerbaustelle · 2010-02-09 18:23:54

Thank you, that seems to work. I'll try that with networkmanager on next reboot.

JerichoKru · 2010-02-09 18:29:22

siriusb wrote:

moljac024:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/377471

From this bug page:

The /etc/wicd/wireless-settings.conf file is made root-readable only. This means that any malicious users must have root access or physical access to the machine. In either of these cases, you have far more problems than worrying about the wireless network key.
Please see http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords for a very good explanation as to why the passwords are not encrypted.

It may be plain text, but only root can read/write.

dauerbaustelle · 2010-02-09 18:32:43

I wonder what that eval does in this case.

hw-tph · 2010-02-09 19:00:31

eval is a shell (bash/zsh, but it is probably present in the original Bourne shell ("sh") as well) built-in command that uses the output from a program (or command) as a command in itself.

gnome-keyring-manager prints the needed environment variables on the standard output, and when you use eval in the way I described above, these variables are set (i.e. the variable GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET is to its correct value). The second line I used exports these variables so they are available to all subsequent applications (including shells), so that they are aware of it.

Zeqadious · 2010-02-09 19:05:16

starting the ck-launch-session before ${yourde}-session helps a lot with things like this...

dauerbaustelle · 2010-02-09 19:10:03

hw-tph, thanks for the information!

Zeqadious, too bad I'm not having any DE running...

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I need a keyring (that works with network-manager)

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