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#1 2005-01-14 01:57:14

thegnu
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Backing up DVDs in Arch

Hi guys. Happy new year!

My mom is a massage therapist and wants to make a copy of a set of myskeletal alignment technique DVDs so she doesn't have to worry about losing them or breaking them, and I'm having a hard time burning them.

I'm trying making an image with XCDroast with dvd+rw-tools installed, and burning with:

dvdrecord dev=4,0,0 -dao track01.iso

I get a segmentation fault.  I'll post the rest of the message in a bit, but I've got to leave because I told my girlfriend I would.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  I don't really want to use K3B if that's the answer, but if that's the easiest answer in Arch, I would like hearing about it.

HELP!
AGGGH!!!
Thanks!
smile


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#2 2005-01-14 02:36:47

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

Well, since you haven't posted the error you're getting yet, let me just tell you how I copy DVD's here :

1) Ripping -> I use dvdbackup (there's a pkg in my repository), which is a CLI program that is quite simple to use.
2) Writing -> I use k3b to write the DVD. There is a way to first make an image and then recording it like you're doing, but I think that writing it with k3b is just a hell of a lot easier (and plus, since it burns stuff on-the-fly, it takes half of the space that creating an iso uses)

I have never used Xcdroast with DVD's , so I don't know if it's any good.
And even tough it seems you're not into using k3b, I really recommend it. Basically the only KDE application that I use.

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#3 2005-01-14 03:52:31

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

OK I'll give that a shot.  Space actually IS a bit of an issue at the moment, since I've put one of my large disks in my xbox for a bit.

Thanks a lot, luisfelipe!  You saved me a lot of work I was just not in the mood for. big_smile


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#4 2005-01-14 13:11:24

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

ACK!

In k3b I get:

System
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K3b Version:0.11.18 
KDE Version: 3.3.2
QT Version: 3.3.3

growisofs
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Executing 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/sr0 obs=32k seek=0'
:-( write failed: Input/output error

growisofs comand:
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/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=dao -dvd-compat -speed=4 

mkisofs
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/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: -follow-links does not always work correctly; be careful.
/usr/bin/mkisofs: IFO is not of correct size aborting
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Unable to parse DVD-Video structures.
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image.

mkisofs comand:
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/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid DISC_1 -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR VERSION 0.11.18 (C) 2003 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer K3b - Version 0.11.18 -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-root/k3bDeglGb.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-root/k3bNnKoic.tmp -full-iso9660-filenames -follow-links -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-root/k3bnx2pXa.tmp -dvd-video /tmp/kde-root/k3bVideoDvd0 /root/.kde/share/apps/k3b/temp/dummydir0/ 

I have no AUDIO_TS folder.  Structure is:

DISC_1/
  AUDIO_TS/
  VIDEO_TS/
    VIDEO_TS.BUP
    VIDEO_TS.IFO
    VTS_01_0.BUP
    VTS_01_0.IFO
    VTS_01_1.VOB
    VTS_01_2.VOB
    VTS_01_3.VOB

I've run as root, I've run as user.  I haven't created a burning group.  I installed kdebase so I would have kdesu so I could run k3bsetup.

/dev/sr0 exists and is my burning device.  /dev/fd/0 exists.


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#5 2005-01-14 14:13:32

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

Weird. Never got anything like that.

How did you rip the dvd ???

PS: if you want your user to be able to record stuff, add him to the optical group :
gpasswd -a <user> optical

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#6 2005-01-14 16:20:10

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

I ripped it with dvdbackup.  I'm entertaining the possibility that my media may have been bad.   I'm at work, but I'm going to try to burn onto the same disc under windows (I'm in a Linux-free environment sad).

Also, I realized that my / directory is full just about.  I am storing my data in a files subdirectory of my ~, so I guess maybe that the very end of the mkisofs command:

/tmp/kde-root/k3bVideoDvd0 /root/.kde/share/apps/k3b/temp/dummydir0/ 

might be checking for freespace where there isn't any.  I'll verify when I get home.

thanks for all your help!


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#7 2005-01-14 20:12:04

kipper
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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

try burning it from the command line and see what happens.

growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z /dev/sr0=/path/to/track01.iso

Or, if you don't already have it as an image file and your system is fast enough, you can include some mkisofs options in your command to burn:

growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video -pad /path/to/foo/

Just make sure your folder structure is correct, with all VOBS, IFOS, etc under the VIDEO_TS folder.  eg.
/foo/AUDIO_TS/
/foo/VIDEO_TS/
/foo/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP
/foo/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO
/foo/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.BUP
/foo/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.IFO
/foo/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB
/foo/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_2.VOB
/foo/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_3.VOB

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#8 2005-01-15 21:10:54

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

I got it resolved.  I burned it at work, because I had been putting off doing this for my mom and it was about time I finished it.

I still need to figure out how to do it in Linux at some point, but I'll leave that battle for another day.  I've got some more exciting current projects to take care of.

On the upside, I've discovered how AWESOME K3b is.  I'm not all that fond of KDE or most of its apps, but K3b is really a wonderful application.  I've been frustrated for a while by lack of native ogg support in other applications, so I couldn't make mix CDs selecting from my whole music library without adding an extra step, like XMMS > Diskout, or something.

Thanks a lot for your help, lf!  I'm bookmarking this thread so I can come back to it when I feel up to it.


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#9 2005-01-15 21:42:58

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

I actually can't burn DVDs anymore, and I think this is since I did a pacman -Syu

ick.  I hate problems like this.


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#10 2006-01-11 15:05:52

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

Ever figure this one out? This just happened to me last night... mkisofs doesn't work to create DVD images. I can only assume that I can't burn a DVD either. Must be some conflict with a lib or something.

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#11 2006-01-11 16:38:35

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

Never really 'got it fixed'.  I left Arch, came back, left, came back, left, came back.  Last time I tried burning a dvd, it worked, I think.  I think the dvdbackup/k3b solution is the simplest.


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#12 2006-01-11 18:47:32

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

DVDshrink through Wine ? Although I'm not a Windows-platform fan, I happen to like well-done software.

Indeed, it is the most powerful tool I've ever seen, as far as dvd ripping/backingup is concerned.

My most-liked features :

- Selection of the parts to save ( chapters/frames)
Nice to remove end credits in order to level up compression ratio.

-Different compression levels available(automatic to make it fit on a DVD5) and possibility to set a compression level for a part(frame x to frame y)
You can select which audio track you want as well as subtitles(remove all but your language, saves a lot of space).

-DVD mastering(keep that part, throw this one away...)

-Outputs a "readable on HD" DVD filesystem structure, which you can burn in k3b.

-Dynamic frame size allocation( deep analysis, like a divx pass 1  but much quicker)

The software is easy to use, my 5 year old cousin would use it. It is also very very light.

My favorite setup :

remove all but the main movie and the local language, cut the end credits, remove the menus, the dvd-region, remove copyright warnings

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#13 2006-01-11 19:16:11

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

If the DVD's are DVD9(Dual Layer, most newer and longer running commercial movies are) you need to shrink the files before you burn them. For this you can use the GUI applications dvdrip(GTK2 interface, very advanced), k9copy(kde app, simple to use) or the scripts lxdvdrip and dvd9to5 to mention a few.
For burning, I like k3b the best.

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#14 2006-01-11 22:04:37

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

Well, it *was* working at one piont during the late night, then it just stopped working...

This is all i get from mkisofs:

mkisofs -v -v -dvd-video -o dvd.iso dvd/
mkisofs 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu)
Scanning dvd/
Scanning dvd/video_ts
Scanning dvd/audio_ts
  276   152
  277   404 video_ts
  278    68 audio_ts
Cache hit for '/..'
Cache hit for 'video_ts/.'
Cache hit for 'video_ts/..'
279 284 dvd/video_ts/video_ts.bup
285 290 dvd/video_ts/video_ts.ifo
291 364 dvd/video_ts/video_ts.vob
365 386 dvd/video_ts/vts_01_0.bup
387 408 dvd/video_ts/vts_01_0.ifo
409 524680 dvd/video_ts/vts_01_1.vob
524681 658398 dvd/video_ts/vts_01_2.vob
Cache hit for 'audio_ts/.'
Cache hit for 'audio_ts/..'
mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image.

...and here's the directory structure of the dvd directory:

ls -1R
.:
audio_ts
video_ts

./audio_ts:

./video_ts:
video_ts.bup
video_ts.ifo
video_ts.vob
vts_01_0.bup
vts_01_0.ifo
vts_01_1.vob
vts_01_2.vob

Some applications I've installed along the way that night:
dvdauthor, tovid, DVDStyler, Gnomebaker

I tried to install dvd+rw-tools, but it wants to uninstall cdrtools which has a bunch of dependancies. I suppose I could force the removal and install dvd+rw-tools in it's place?

I'm pretty lost at this point. The message mkisofs spits out doesn't really help and there's no rhyme or reason why it stopped making DVD images (I can still make a regular ISO from a CD)... it just... stopped.  sad

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#15 2006-01-11 22:44:01

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

Can't you just back them up with

dd if=/dev/hdx of=image.iso

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#16 2006-01-11 23:26:33

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

Certainly. I guess I kind of high-jacked this thread. My issue is with creating DVD from video content (I had some AVI files I wanted to burn to DVD). I've managed to make it to the point where I'm creating a UDF disk image with mkisofs. Our symptoms seemed similar when it came to creating DVDs in general.

Should I start a different thread on this (mkisofs -dvd-read)?

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#17 2006-01-12 16:56:22

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

Can recent FS store a 4.7GB file ? And a 8.5GB ?

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#18 2006-01-12 17:10:01

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

Well, I'm running ext3 and it worked before. I'm just not sure why it stopped working. I have some 40+ GB available on the drive I'm working on... although... hmmm. That is a FAT32 FS on that one. Good point. I'll have to try and create the ISO on an ext3 partition.

r.

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#19 2006-01-13 01:02:17

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

sesser wrote:

Well, I'm running ext3 and it worked before. I'm just not sure why it stopped working. I have some 40+ GB available on the drive I'm working on... although... hmmm. That is a FAT32 FS on that one. Good point. I'll have to try and create the ISO on an ext3 partition.

No dice on this one either... mkisofs just doesn't want to create a DVD iso for me.

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#20 2006-01-13 02:51:39

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Re: Backing up DVDs in Arch

I guess I should read the man pages more closely before thinking something is broken :?

Seems that the folder/files names of the directory tree in which mkisofs is to generate a DVD image must be in UPPERCASE.

i.e.

AUDIO_TS
VIDEO_TS
  VIDEO_TS.BUP
  VIDEO_TS.IFO
  VIDEO_TS.VOB
  VTS_01_0.BUP
  VTS_01_0.IFO
  VTS_01_1.VOB
  VTS_01_2.VOB

Just wish mkisofs would spit out a little nicer (more informative) error message...

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