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#1 2010-03-08 20:39:26

JerichoKru
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Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

I want to test out the newest version of PCManFM(newer builds have trash support) and it requires libfm-git.  However, libfm needs menu-cache >= 0.3.2, so I retrieved it from lxde's git and installed it.  Libfm-git still recognizes the old version.  Is it necessary to remove the old version first?  If I do, will it break anything?

Thanks.

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#2 2010-03-10 11:31:53

Stefan Husmann
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

To what directory did you install menu-cache install to? /usr/local? If so, you probably have to edit your ld.conf file and run ldconfig.

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#3 2010-03-10 15:10:42

JerichoKru
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

Stefan Husmann wrote:

To what directory did you install menu-cache install to? /usr/local? If so, you probably have to edit your ld.conf file and run ldconfig.

I let git drop it into my home directory...should it have been placed somewhere else?

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#4 2010-03-10 15:38:52

tomk
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

The standard menu-cache package in community installs to /usr/include and /usr/lib - yours should do the same.

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#5 2010-03-10 16:22:40

JerichoKru
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

tomk wrote:

The standard menu-cache package in community installs to /usr/include and /usr/lib - yours should do the same.

I'm not entirely sure it installs there...how could I check (and modify, if needed) the install path?

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#6 2010-03-12 15:46:03

JerichoKru
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

Well, I got libfm-git and pcmanfm-git installed. thanks to someone updating menu-cache.

Now...how do I make the new pcmanfm default?


Also, clicking on the trash give an "operation not supported", am I missing a file/program/daemon?

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#7 2010-03-12 17:31:32

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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

JerichoKru wrote:

Well, I got libfm-git and pcmanfm-git installed. thanks to someone updating menu-cache.

Now...how do I make the new pcmanfm default?


Also, clicking on the trash give an "operation not supported", am I missing a file/program/daemon?

Trash can support (provided by gvfs)


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#8 2010-03-22 05:19:26

JerichoKru
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

lolilolicon wrote:
JerichoKru wrote:

Well, I got libfm-git and pcmanfm-git installed. thanks to someone updating menu-cache.

Now...how do I make the new pcmanfm default?


Also, clicking on the trash give an "operation not supported", am I missing a file/program/daemon?

Trash can support (provided by gvfs)

I do have gvfs installed.  Does it need extra configuration?

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#9 2010-03-27 06:20:12

empthollow
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

I second JerichoKru's question.  I am using pcmanfm2 with fluxbox.  I cannot access ftp or trash that is supposedly provided by gvfs.  I have gvfs installed but I am not aware of a daemon for it.  Is this a configuration issue or a feature that hasn't been implimented yet.  I get 'operation not supported' for both of these operations.  Also, my usb drive does not automatically show in the git version.

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#10 2010-04-16 02:26:56

empthollow
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

Ok, I have installed pcmanfm-git on my gnome desktop and trash can works, and ftp works.  It appears something running in the gnome session is activating gvfs.  If anyone has any great ideas on how to determine what it is that gnome is starting I would appreciate the suggestions.


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#11 2010-04-17 03:34:16

empthollow
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

I think I have the solution.

dbus-launch pcmanfm2

it takes much longer for the file manager to open, but trash works and ftp works.  It appears to start all necessary gvfs daemons.  As far as I can tell gvfs is the only dependency needed.  Please post your results.


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#12 2010-04-17 03:37:16

ctarwater
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

dbus-launch works here.  Didn't take more than an extra second or two to start up and trash/ftp works!

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#13 2010-04-18 03:53:44

empthollow
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

cool, mine got faster after a reboot and it's pretty quick too.


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#14 2010-04-18 14:04:00

xsoul
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

actually i don't see the value of adding a trash can..
and it seems gvfs is a little heavy for non-gnome users like me..

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#15 2010-04-18 14:51:23

empthollow
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

I can see your point. I wanted it mainly for the ftp access.  The trash can be turned off in preferences.


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#16 2010-05-19 18:17:40

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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

xsoul wrote:

actually i don't see the value of adding a trash can..
and it seems gvfs is a little heavy for non-gnome users like me..

I'm also a non-gnome user who's avoiding gnome as much as possible just because I wanted to.
But what is quite shocking for me is that adding gvfs only force me to download about 3 MB.
So now I'm very confused. I could just install them and have pcmanfm with trash can support (not that I used it), easy mounting of usb disks (this is quite handy, though since I spend most of the time on cli and just use one device at a time then it's just as fast to make an alias for pmount or udisks --mount.), and I also get palimsest as a bonus (gnome disk utility, it's easier to format flash disks using it than gparted or cli tools like parted and friends). But if I wanted to keep my purists behavior of avoiding any packages with some connection with gnome unless I really have to then I'll just have to live without easy disk mounting. It's quiet light for me, but I'm trying to avoid gnome. Aaagh, the dilemma.

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#17 2010-05-20 01:01:18

empthollow
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

I don't find the trash can partucularaly useful either, so I turn it off.  But the easy mounting of drives and ftp support is great.


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#18 2010-05-20 01:05:26

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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

shanipribadi wrote:
xsoul wrote:

actually i don't see the value of adding a trash can..
and it seems gvfs is a little heavy for non-gnome users like me..

I'm also a non-gnome user who's avoiding gnome as much as possible just because I wanted to.

Voluntarily (and arbitrarily) limiting yourself is either a sign of strongly-held beliefs or stubborn misguidedness.


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#19 2010-05-27 23:52:21

akephalos
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Re: Building libfm-git and pcmanfm-git

shanipribadi wrote:
xsoul wrote:

actually i don't see the value of adding a trash can..
and it seems gvfs is a little heavy for non-gnome users like me..

I'm also a non-gnome user who's avoiding gnome as much as possible just because I wanted to.
...

GVFS is just a temporary dependency which PCMan intends to get rid of at one point. He reconfirmed this recently: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=657

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