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#1 2010-03-28 11:27:52

Davigetto
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Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

Hello,

I'm watching videos from either youtube and non-youtube sources, and when I put the videos in fullscreen, the framerate drops dramatically and it looks very choppy.

Is there any workaround to this problem?

Greetings


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#2 2010-03-28 14:10:01

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

Flash sucks in Linux, there isnt much you can do about it except for get better hardware. But for youtube videos you can just download the video file with a program such as youtube-dl (from AUR) and play it with your favorite media player.


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#3 2010-03-28 14:17:52

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

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#4 2010-03-28 14:49:49

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

lol. btw, you can turn off hardware accelaration in flash player to improve performance. if that doesnt work, then turn off compiz bfore you watch flash videos. also, you can ask at ubuntuforums because all linux are having this problem and they have a larger community, so it might help. not saying that arch community isn't good. also, this site may help. http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43859
for some reason my flash performance improved by following their instructions. maybe its just libpng thats causing problems.

Last edited by raj7095 (2010-03-28 14:52:46)

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#5 2010-03-28 18:56:26

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

I was first on Ubuntu 7 and Suse 10. What helped me to move entirely to Arch was to finally get STABLE flash performance. Specially for my wife, she loves watching youtube using Arch. Full-screen-flash is often poor quality but i think most youtube movies are crappy anyway. I found car-makers promotion videos are sometimes ok because they spend some mony on decent equipment. Example: www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvoSw2Qr2UM
Someone knows a "reference flash movie" that we are shure is really good ?
Note i only have a classic 17" crt display, AMD3000, nvidia 6200. When you are watching on a brand new 24" full-HD than i suspect you will not find any flash that is good enough ?

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#6 2010-03-28 20:31:48

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ5U8suTUw0 (Dark Knight)
In the bottom right corner you can choose the quality from 380p to 1080p.

Last edited by demian (2010-03-28 20:32:47)


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#7 2010-03-28 20:53:22

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

Just begin to watch a flash video, pause it and play the temporary file with your player of choice:

mplayer /tmp/*.flv

That's the way I do it. smile

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#8 2010-03-28 21:00:13

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

I have a fairly ancient laptop and find that only the Uzbl-browser plays flash ok at fullscreen, all others give very laggy playback.

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#9 2010-03-28 21:08:06

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

Here's something weird....
I go to a website that the TV station operates to run it shows online
It will display the show full browser screen, pressing F11 to make firefox full screen results in the show taking up the entire screen. It runs great. However pressing the flash full screen button doesn't do anything to the display size since its already full screen but the frame-rate drops to very annoying

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#10 2010-03-28 22:06:20

Davigetto
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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

orschiro wrote:

Just begin to watch a flash video, pause it and play the temporary file with your player of choice:

mplayer /tmp/*.flv

That's the way I do it. smile

That works on youtube, but it does not work on the videos I watch from a TV webpage sad


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#11 2010-03-28 23:48:36

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

We can't patch flash, it's closed source.


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#12 2010-03-29 00:12:22

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

Isn't html5 suppose to have embedded video
Hope the standard video codec is open

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#13 2010-03-29 01:54:26

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

chrisb wrote:

Isn't html5 suppose to have embedded video
Hope the standard video codec is open

Yeah, but google is too evil to release the h.264 codec as GPL therefore making Firefox, IE and Opera users have to switch to chrome. In that respect google is just as bad as microsoft in the browser monopoly.

The free software foundation wrote an open letter to google concerning this:
http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/goog … or-youtube

I sure hope google does not ignore the cries of the free software community. hmm


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#14 2010-03-29 03:58:43

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

what a rip off, kinda makes the whole effort pointless, html should be forced to only use open codecs

<< is waiting to be arrested for anti-capitalist behavior

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#15 2010-03-29 10:44:34

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

> html should be forced to only use open codecs
Even if they are inferior? Google is a company (a marketing / advertising company btw) and a company that spends more money than is necessary is ripping off its shareholders. Please, try to understand all the important aspects, not only the ones you would like to focus on.

Google pays for the codec and you can download chrome (that's chrome, not chromium) and watch the videos just fine. You can try download them w/ f.e. cclive, FlashGot or some other tool.

Arresting for anti-capitalist behavior is for sissies. I'm getting my car battery - watch out ... ;-)

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#16 2010-03-29 13:24:18

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

karol wrote:

Arresting for anti-capitalist behavior is for sissies. I'm getting my car battery - watch out ... ;-)

http://openza.co.za/blog/2010/02/26/ope … apitalism/

>Even if they are inferior?
How long do you think it would remain "inferior" given that exposure

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#17 2010-03-29 15:25:00

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

> http://openza.co.za/blog/2010/02/26/ope … apitalism/
Yeah, I know: un-American and all that. <shrugs>
But I do see progress: they concluded that burning at the stake(holder) is so 16th-century so now <drum roll> they put you on US' Special 301 watchlist!


Getting back on topic: does biiig Flash-UI works sluggishly or not? I don't visit any designer webpages and http://nexuiz.com is rather light on flash - yet the page took a while to load  (I've got 2Mb/s) and even after it was fully loaded the mouse cursor had a 3 sec. delay wrt changing from the standard arrow to some other pointer (the movement was lagging only slightly).

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#18 2010-03-29 15:46:08

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

This is BS, only Adobe is to blame for the Flash performance in *nix.
And yes, I understand it is a joke tongue

Last edited by JohannesSM64 (2010-03-29 15:50:30)

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#19 2010-03-29 20:38:35

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

karol wrote:

Getting back on topic: does biiig Flash-UI works sluggishly or not?

I know full browser screen flash video works with the nouveau driver
Making firefox go fullscreen makes it the same as going fullscreen flash video except its not sluggish
And the flash interface is full browser screen that works good too

Last edited by chrisb (2010-03-29 20:41:43)

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#20 2010-03-29 20:46:07

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

Yeah OP, I've got very choppy fullscreen flash and with the hardware I have, by no means should I have lag. I believe it to be a problem on Adobe's end. Unfortunately, they have are closed source and it tends to run slow in fullscreen. That's the only thing that I've had trouble with that I can't fix or find a suitable alternative to.

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#21 2010-03-29 20:51:38

chrisb
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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

I haven't tried it with the nvidia drivers, but using the same hardware fullscreen flash worked fine with nvidia in gentoo

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#22 2010-03-29 20:58:00

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

chrisb wrote:

I haven't tried it with the nvidia drivers, but using the same hardware fullscreen flash worked fine with nvidia in gentoo

Are you using 32bit or 64 bit?

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#23 2010-03-29 20:59:02

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

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#24 2010-03-29 21:04:19

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

That's probably why, 64bit flash for me has always been crap in Linux. I have no problem with it in Windows, and 32bit for me in Linux was fair in terms of playback.

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#25 2010-03-29 21:08:19

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Re: Is there any way to improve flash fullscreen performance?

not mentioned in the OP

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