Can't open a terminal...

nomadewolf · 2010-04-04 17:27:34

Hi!
I'm new to Arch, and 'relatively' new to Linux. But i'm a software IT, so i learn easy.
I've managed to install and configure Arch both with Gnome and KED, but i can't find a console or terminal in either on them... This way, i can't install anything else and/or keep my system update... I'd really like to learn more about Arch and see if it really is that fast as i've heard...
So... Can anyone give me a tip, or two...

P.S: BTW, adding a shortcut to the context menu would be nice too (in Gnome).

Last edited by nomadewolf (2010-04-04 17:31:51)

Coacher · 2010-04-04 17:32:11

In KDE: Alt+F2 -> type konsole -> enter -> profit
Dont know whats the default terminal emulator in Gnome but steps are all the same.

Mahara · 2010-04-04 17:37:04

How come you can't find a Konsole or Terminal ?
Do you have X Server running?
Any desktop environment running corectly ?
TTY's are working? If not see http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … n.27t_work

* To switch to Console mode

Press 'Ctrl + Alt + F1' (F2 - F6)

* To switch between consoles in Console mode

Press 'Alt + F1' (F2 - F6)

* To switch back to GNOME/KDE mode

Press 'Alt + F7'

Gnome uses a terminal emulator called : gnome-terminal
KDE -=- : konsole

wonder · 2010-04-04 17:38:28

nomadewolf wrote:

Hi!
I'm new to Arch, and 'relatively' new to Linux. But i'm a software IT, so i learn easy.
I've managed to install and configure Arch both with Gnome and KED, but i can't find a console or terminal in either on them... This way, i can't install anything else and/or keep my system update... I'd really like to learn more about Arch and see if it really is that fast as i've heard...
So... Can anyone give me a tip, or two...
P.S: BTW, adding a shortcut to the context menu would be nice too (in Gnome).

maybe you forgot to install gnome-terminal?

n0dix · 2010-04-04 17:44:50

nomadewolf wrote:

P.S: BTW, adding a shortcut to the context menu would be nice too (in Gnome).

Alt + F1... See in System > Preferences > Shortcuts for the whole settings.

Mardoct · 2010-04-04 17:45:24

If you installed the whole xorg package you have xterm.

nomadewolf · 2010-04-05 09:53:54

Coacher wrote:

In KDE: Alt+F2 -> type konsole -> enter -> profit
Dont know whats the default terminal emulator in Gnome but steps are all the same.

Thanks.
But... that's the first thing i tried.

nomadewolf · 2010-04-05 09:56:44

Mahara wrote:

How come you can't find a Konsole or Terminal ?
Do you have X Server running?
Any desktop environment running corectly ?
TTY's are working? If not see http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … n.27t_work
* To switch to Console mode
Press 'Ctrl + Alt + F1' (F2 - F6)
* To switch between consoles in Console mode
Press 'Alt + F1' (F2 - F6)
* To switch back to GNOME/KDE mode
Press 'Alt + F7'
Gnome uses a terminal emulator called : gnome-terminal
KDE -=- : konsole

Thanks.
I knew that... But if i do that, my host (Mint) will get the input, not the VM...
Yes, XServer is up and running, or i wouldn't even have KDE or Gnome.
Iv'e manged to have both running. (one at a time. i can switch how many times i want).

nomadewolf · 2010-04-05 10:37:18

wonder wrote:

nomadewolf wrote:
Hi!
I'm new to Arch, and 'relatively' new to Linux. But i'm a software IT, so i learn easy.
I've managed to install and configure Arch both with Gnome and KED, but i can't find a console or terminal in either on them... This way, i can't install anything else and/or keep my system update... I'd really like to learn more about Arch and see if it really is that fast as i've heard...
So... Can anyone give me a tip, or two...
P.S: BTW, adding a shortcut to the context menu would be nice too (in Gnome).
maybe you forgot to install gnome-terminal?

Maybe you're right...
Turns out, i didn't have that package installed...
I did what n0dix proposed and got an error saying that package wasn't found... So i installed it...

nomadewolf · 2010-04-05 10:41:23

n0dix wrote:

nomadewolf wrote:
P.S: BTW, adding a shortcut to the context menu would be nice too (in Gnome).
Alt + F1... See in System > Preferences > Shortcuts for the whole settings.

Thanks n0dix.
That didn't work, but i sure DID help.
I found out i didn't have gnome-terminal installed... I thought that came by default...
Anyways... Now i have it installed and all, but it just won't start...
Might have to do with my system going down while installing the first time... In order to get it to install again i had to delete tons of files which were showing as errors during installation. But now, it installs and removes flawlessly, so it 'should' work...
Might i have 'broken' something?...

flamelab · 2010-04-05 10:54:23

Install lxterminal and try to execute gnome-terminal through lxterminal.

nomadewolf · 2010-04-05 11:38:43

flamelab wrote:

Install lxterminal and try to execute gnome-terminal through lxterminal.

When i click the Gnome Console shortcut, an icon appears in the 'taskbar' but it goes way after bout 10sec...
When i click the lxterminal, nothing happens...
Weird... Maybe i'll try a clean reinstall.

Mahara · 2010-04-05 12:07:24

But if i do that, my host (Mint) will get the input, not the VM...
Yes, XServer is up and running, or i wouldn't even have KDE or Gnome.
Iv'e manged to have both running. (one at a time. i can switch how many times i want).

So, you are trying to install Arch in a Virtual Machine? This is what I deduce from the above post, if so then you need to configure your Virtual Machine Hypervisor to accept input for those shortcuts;

Please provide enough information when you start asking questions. ( http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html )

But I don't know how can you install Gnome without installing gnome-terminal or KDE without konsole; sounds weird too me;

So I recommend to read the wiki, if you didn't do that by now :
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Off … tall_Guide

Have Fun.

Last edited by Mahara (2010-04-08 22:52:21)

flamelab · 2010-04-05 12:19:45

nomadewolf wrote:

flamelab wrote:
Install lxterminal and try to execute gnome-terminal through lxterminal.
When i click the Gnome Console shortcut, an icon appears in the 'taskbar' but it goes way after bout 10sec...
When i click the lxterminal, nothing happens...
Weird... Maybe i'll try a clean reinstall.

Check in .xsession-errors in your ~ about errors during the launch of the terminals.

You could launch the terminals through tty, but I don't remember the command which redirects the output to an existing X session instead of the X-less tty window.

Last edited by flamelab (2010-04-05 12:20:42)

pseudonomous · 2010-04-05 17:04:50

if i do that, my host (Mint) will get the input, not the VM...

Off-topic, but useful, If you are using VirtualBox, you can send "ctrl+alt+f1" to a vm by hitting "host+f1", where "host" is the key you hit to toggle input capture, by default, it's "right-ctrl".

nomadewolf · 2010-04-11 17:01:59

flamelab wrote:

nomadewolf wrote:
flamelab wrote:
Install lxterminal and try to execute gnome-terminal through lxterminal.
When i click the Gnome Console shortcut, an icon appears in the 'taskbar' but it goes way after bout 10sec...
When i click the lxterminal, nothing happens...
Weird... Maybe i'll try a clean reinstall.
Check in .xsession-errors in your ~ about errors during the launch of the terminals.
You could launch the terminals through tty, but I don't remember the command which redirects the output to an existing X session instead of the X-less tty window.

Found the following lines, which might be relevant, but i dont exactly know how to solve the problem...

kbuildsycoca4(2943) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: new: "/usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop"
kbuildsycoca4(2943)/kdecore (services) KServicePrivate::init: The desktop entry file "/usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop" has Type= "Application" but no Exec line

kbuildsycoca4(2943) KBuildServiceFactory::createEntry: Invalid Service : "/usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop"

nomadewolf · 2010-04-11 17:03:04

pseudonomous wrote:

if i do that, my host (Mint) will get the input, not the VM...
Off-topic, but useful, If you are using VirtualBox, you can send "ctrl+alt+f1" to a vm by hitting "host+f1", where "host" is the key you hit to toggle input capture, by default, it's "right-ctrl".

Useful indeed. Thanks for your input m8

Anikom15 · 2010-04-11 18:34:47

Posts in legendary topic.

skottish · 2010-04-11 19:13:04

Anikom15 wrote:

Posts in legendary topic.

Asks you not to bump threads for no reason.

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