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#1 2005-01-27 14:54:54

BlackFenix
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Fluxbox 0.9.12

In fluxbox site the lastest version is 0.9.12 but in arch repos is 0.9.11.
I'm try search in abs but don't found PKBUILD 0.9.11 to change.
Where is located this PKGBUILD ?


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#2 2005-01-27 14:59:09

delmonico
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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

/var/abs/extra/x11/fluxbox

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#3 2005-01-27 15:02:37

BlackFenix
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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

wow... fast... but... wrong  wink
/var/abs/x11/fluxbox  only contain fluxbox 0.1.xx.
I use fluxbox-devel

Thanks!!!  smile


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#4 2005-01-27 15:55:08

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

pkgname=fluxbox-dev
pkgver=0.9.12
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc=""A lightweight and highly-configurable window manager"
url="http://fluxbox.sf.net"
license="GPL"
depends=('x-server 'imlib2')
replaces=('fluxbox')
source=(http://belnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/fluxbox/fluxbox-$pkgver.tar

build() {
  cd $startdir/src/fluxbox-$pkgver
  ./configure --enable-imlib2
  make || return 1
  make prefix=$startdir/pkg/usr install
}

only change the pkgver and enjoy it


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#5 2005-01-27 16:20:25

delmonico
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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

Hmmm why is unstable not in the abs-tree btw?

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#6 2005-01-27 16:33:44

BlackFenix
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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

Thanks celeron2002 big_smile


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#7 2005-01-27 19:08:03

phrakture
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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

delmonico wrote:

Hmmm why is unstable not in the abs-tree btw?

do you have it in pacman.conf?

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#8 2005-01-27 20:01:34

babyigor37
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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

Hmmm why is unstable not in the abs-tree btw?

you can enable the unstable tree in abs by editing the /etc/abs.conf

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#9 2005-01-27 20:35:02

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

Here I took the pkgbuild from abs and edited it and it works:

# $Id: PKGBUILD,v 1.8 2004/12/09 16:21:12 tobias Exp $
# Maintainer: tobias <tobias@archlinux.org>
# Contributor:  Ben <contrasutra@myrealbox.com>

pkgname=fluxbox-devel
pkgver=0.9.12
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="A lightweight and highly-configurable window manager (DEVEL VERSION)."
pkgurl="http://www.fluxbox.org"
makedepends=('automake' 'pkgconfig')
depends=('x-server' 'freetype2' 'gcc>=3.4' 'bash')
source=(http://belnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/fluxbox/fluxbox-$pkgver.tar.bz2)
conflicts=('fluxbox')
provides=('fluxbox')

build() {
  cd $startdir/src/fluxbox-${pkgver}
  ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-xft --enable-kde --enable-gnome
  make || return 1
  make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install
    # this is a fix to allow fluxbox to shutdown, but this can be changed by the user :-(
  sed -i 's|^.*slit.autoHide.*$|session.screen0.slit.autoHide:  True|' 
    $startdir/pkg/usr/share/fluxbox/init
}

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#10 2005-01-28 11:32:01

dtw
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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now people are posting PKGBUILDS for pkgs that are IN the offical repos!  AHAHAHAHAHAA

the world has gone mad, mad i tell you , maaaddddd!

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#11 2005-01-28 12:56:33

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

maybe the package in the repos was OUT OF DATE?

and they just wanted a new one because the existing one is out of date big_smile

[root@iphibox iphitus]# pacman -S fluxbox-devel
:: fluxbox-devel-0.9.11-1: is up to date.  Upgrade anyway? [Y/n]

i sy'ed before that command too.

and the package is flagged out of date...
http://archlinux.org/packages.php?id=2122

iphitus

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#12 2005-01-29 06:30:52

dtw
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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

no kidding!

tho patience is a virtue...

to be honest, i think it might be advantageous if a few more people were allowed to update the pkgs in repos - there is a lot to keep up with!

EDIT:

oh my god - this guy has it in his repo:

http://lanteau.homelinux.org/~lanteau/arch/hostile/

i really am on ther verge of a mental break - what the fudge is going on!

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#13 2005-01-29 07:58:51

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

dibblethewrecker, firstly that repo isnt a tur and isnt one i've ever heard of, thats hardly fair pulling out an abstract repo to prove your point. That person who had it in his repo, made it after this thread was formed.

Secondly the new version of fluxbox has some very good new features including imlib2 support, and some very useful tab control bindings. I dont blame people for being impatient to get it.

Maybe you ought to take a damned chill pill and cool it. You aint gonna die. Its not harming anyone putting this pkgbuild here. While i understand your concern and agree with it to an extent, there's nothing wrong with this pkgbuild and is fair enough reason for it to be here.

iphitus

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#14 2005-01-29 08:44:06

dtw
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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

i don't blame people for being impatient to get it either.  i request svn pkgs from punkrockguy as soon as the fetaure was commited.  i now have it via the actual release.

i used abs to sync the PKGBUILD and modified the pkgver and configure line.  that is the way it is "supposed" to be done (see below before you freak out).

you are right, it doesn't matter.  but let me just list a few things that are also out of date in the repos: idesk and wesnoth.  i'm sure there are plenty more and i am sure that they will appear in the next few days - actually idesk has been out of date for as long as i can remeber but that is beside the point.  i won't be posting PKGBUILDS or pks for them tho because that would invalidate tpowa's hard work (on wesnoth at least he is not responsible for the other)

the point is is that as soon as one person starts posting PKGBUILDS for pkgs that are either in the official repos, in TUR or in other repos, people, generally new people, start to jump to conclusions about the way the system works and the result is what i posted before - pkg duplication and the complication of the system.

The only reason the system works is because we all adhere to that system, no-one can make anybody follow the system or the rules but it is in our interest to remain within the system to ensure it's successful continuation.  we could all have a repo full of our own builds of all the repo pkgs built with different cflags for example. but we don't.

i agree that this particular case is not so bad (except the subsequent inclusion of the pkg in someones repo  roll ) but the issue, as i said before is that the system is starting to break down (not enough devs) and this type of thing is going to get really messy really fast and i don't like it at all - this used to be an organized place!

maybe it's tough shit on me.

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#15 2005-01-30 00:53:18

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

well since dibble had to make a big deal out of nothing to me, I guess it was something to others. I took that fluxbox off my repo so everyone use your sucky old version! and like it. but whatever I didn't do that piss people off. I am truly sorry


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[hostile]
Server = http://lanteau.homelinux.org/~lanteau/arch/hostile/
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#16 2005-01-30 12:31:56

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

Hostile,

I screwed up my local repos the other day by having a pkg in them called kernel26 - still not sure how.

It is not an issue now as the new one has not been updated but when the new one is and people sync from you server and the offical unstable server they might get problems and that would be your fault.

Nothing personal.

READ ME!
Fellow fluxbox fans - it is high time fluxbox-devel moved to extra and fluxbox was removed altogether!

The fluxbox website CLEARLY STATES that fluxbox stable is obsolete and that fluxbox development is current and STABLE.

I'll post a bug saying as much and you all go along and make a comment saying you agree.  That way it should get updated quicker when it is moved to extra!

This was already suggested here

Bug report is here - please sign on petition stylee

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#17 2005-02-07 10:48:10

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

ok - we have one "signature" - great work guys

Fluxbox 0.9.12 released 2005.01.18-01:09

Updated in UNSTABLE 2005-02-06 11:49:58

Great!  Come on, guys, for goodness sake!

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#18 2005-02-08 09:01:08

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

Ummm, dibblethewrecker, there is a reason why ''the development'' series hasnt been considered to replace the stable series.

including lacking of translations, lacking documentation, some severe bugs that can lock up a system and other minor things..

Maybe you should leave a fluxbox-stable for those who want it.

iphitus

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#19 2005-02-08 09:27:33

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

thanks for making the effort to state the obvious - my point is who does want it? why not havethe both in extra!  we all know what the "stablity" issues are.

as fra as bugs that lock the system are concerned - i don't think i ever saw one in a release version and if i did i doubt they were anymore common than the ones in gaim as it was being developed - there is no good arguement for keep in fluxbox-dev out of extra.

If using archstats was mandatory we could check the number of users of one versus the other.

The whole point is that if no-one, or a very small minority actually uses the "stable" version why force the dev version, which people do use, into unstable and make everyone wait over a month for an update?  it's ridiculous!

i personally don't care as i use the svn version anyway - this Arch backwardness just causes more problems tho!

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#20 2005-02-08 20:24:54

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

In my (admittedly limited) experience, fluxbox-devel is pretty stable. There was a little bug involving window raises and the composite extensions IIRC, but that was fixed in version 0.9.11. I have heard some stuff about QT and hard locks though... Perhaps 0.9.12 isn't as stable as 0.9.11?
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#21 2005-02-09 10:55:06

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

There was a period of time where I wasnt able to use fluxbox because it hard locked X, and at the moment, a major community member ikaro cannot use fluxbox because it locks up his box too.

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#22 2005-02-09 10:58:32

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

iphitus - that is total rubbish - i know of ikaro and i know that his problems were not eventually due to fluxbox at all and he apologised for ever suggesting it was. last i heard he thought it was gtk2 but it wasn't.

how can a game like wesnoth, which is clearly in the development stages and frequently buggy be in extra but fluxbox-devel cannot?

it makes no sense to me at all

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#23 2005-02-10 10:19:35

neri
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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

dibblethewrecker wrote:

how can a game like wesnoth, which is clearly in the development stages and frequently buggy be in extra but fluxbox-devel cannot?

it makes no sense to me at all

I don't maintain wesnoth. And really guys, I do understand your confusion,
I'm not happy with the situation either. We all know that there is software
that claims to be devel or even just a cvs snapshot, but runs as rock stable
as it possibly could. Others claiming to be stable release, is crashing all the
way. Archlinux is about running a distro, not a software testing center smile
so we try to rely on the labeling of the upstream authors.
Speaking of fluxbox, I'm not going to release two versions of the same
software into one and the same repo as long as it could be avoided. So
where shall I put fluxbox, when fluxbox-devel moves to extra? Also, I'm
not going to drop fluxbox, cuz I know there are people ot there using it and
I don't wanna piss them of.
So fluxbox-devel is just in another repo, why is it bothering you so much?

-neri

PS. I also see the point that Archlinux isn't about keeping outdated
packages for ever, right? But kicking fluxbox can wait. Believe me there are criterias when it will disappear  8)

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#24 2005-02-10 10:38:13

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Re: Fluxbox 0.9.12

fair enough - i think the delay in it's update was the biggest issue, i personally saw this as related to it's "relegation" to unstable.

if the new fluxbox tree was called something else would it be in extra?

i think so  roll

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