Randomly freezes with 2.6.33.X

Oimel · 2010-05-01 21:32:19

Hello,

first of all: Sorry for my poor english.

Currently I am figthing with my system after upgrading the kernel from 2.6.32 up to 2.6.33 (using the standard kernel26 package). The system ist absolutely not stable. It freezes randomly and I am unfortunately not able to reproduce the freezes. Sometimes I am able to work with the system for a few hours and then the system freezes five minutes after login. It seems not to depend on a special software, I am using (just KDE4.4.2, kmail, firefox, terminals, kate, sshfs, amarok...).

I have searched in the log files (/var/log/*) but I wasn't able to find anything (hints, error messages or so). The only solution, I had, was a downgrade down to 2.6.32 again, and everything seems to work just fine. But this not really a solution for the future.

Informations about my system configuration:
Mainboard: Asus P7P55D Deluxe
CPU: Core i7 860
Graphic card: Nvidia 8600 Gt (I'm using the nvidia driver)

Thanks a lot for your help!

Cheers,

Jakob

karol · 2010-05-01 22:02:23

Can you "unfreeze" by killing X? Is it triggered by multimedia - playing a movie, viewing pictures?

Last edited by karol (2010-05-01 22:14:23)

Oimel · 2010-05-01 22:09:20

Hi,

no, this ist absolutely impossible. The system doesn't accept any keyboard or mouse input. Even a remote login via ssh is not possible. The system is completely frozen.

The last time, the system crashed, was just a few minutes after login. Only kmail was running.

Thanks!

Jakob

karol · 2010-05-01 22:14:49

Maybe you can try nouveau driver, but this means using KMS etc.

Oimel · 2010-05-01 22:18:56

So it could be the combination of nvidia 195.36.1 with 2.6.33.2/3? Are there any problems known? As I said, I've no problems with the whole system using nvidia 195.36.1 and 2.6.32(.10).

But it could try the nouveau driver tomorrow.

Does the nouveau driver have support for dual head configurations?

Last edited by Oimel (2010-05-01 22:57:50)

karol · 2010-05-01 22:31:01

You can try the newest drivers from nvidia, the ones in the repo are a bit old.
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index5.aspx?lang=en-us

> Does the nouveau driver has support for dual head configurations?
I have no idea, sorry.

Last edited by karol (2010-05-01 22:31:54)

numasan · 2010-05-03 08:15:01

Hola all,

I came here to search for posts regarding freezing/hanging systems (first tried google..) since I have this problem also. Thing is, this machine is not running X and has no graphics binary blobs. I also think it has to do with the 2.6.33.x kernels, since I just upgraded the whole system (with an update to 2.6.33) and it still hangs. "Funny" thing is, it hangs precisely after 10 min. two times in a row now. This is an older Pentium-4 test-machine (I can post complete specs if someone is interested) and it's running very few services.

I also run Arch on my old laptop @ home that is up2date and that uses the Nvidia-blob, but I haven't experienced any hangs at all.

This is just to say that I don't think this is about the Nvidia driver.

berbae · 2010-05-03 09:53:27

Oimel wrote:

The system ist absolutely not stable. It freezes randomly [...] It seems not to depend on a special software, I am using (just KDE4.4.2, ...).
[...] The only solution, I had, was a downgrade down to 2.6.32 again, and everything seems to work just fine. But this not really a solution for the future.

To eliminate a hardware possible cause, you have to be surer than that that everything works fine using the 2.6.32 kernel.
Because the symptoms you give suggest a hardware problem (bad memory, heating cpu or gpi, ...).

Oimel wrote:

So it could be the combination of nvidia 195.36.1 with 2.6.33.2/3? Are there any problems known?

The combination nvidia 195.36.15 with 2.6.33.2/3 kernel worked without problem on my machine, when I used them. If there were a problem, many persons would have mentioned it for a long time.

What you can do before trying the Nouveau driver :

1) Disabling the desktop effects of KDE
2) Using the nv driver

Oimel wrote:

Does the nouveau driver have support for dual head configurations?

Yes through xrandr 1.2, as it is answered in http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FAQ … andr1.2.3F :

2.4. Do you support dual-head systems / Randr 1.2?
Yes, Randr 1.2 is supported (and cannot be disabled).

But the Nouveau driver requires that you use the KMS functionality of the kernel, so needs some adjustments to your habits.

Nevertheless the Nvidia driver should work well, and it is not at all certain that it is the cause of the random freezes.

ssl6 · 2010-05-09 13:09:57

i've been having these lockup issues too on my system since the 2.6.33 kernel

my original thread is here, http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=95797

my hardware specs are as follows
Phenom II X4 955
4gb DDR3
Asus M4A79T Deluxe
Asus 8800GT
Creative X-fi pci-e
3 1tb WD black hdd's
1 seagate 750gb
Enermax fan controller / Card reader

i use the nouveau drivers, i thought it was related to either those, but seems to be a kernel issue after some searching. found a redhat bug for this issue, however related to the 2.6.32 kernel, it also referenced a ubuntu bug

my system seems to freeze at random. it might run for 2 days fine, and then if i try to open digikam to download pictures from my camera it will freeze, or it might freeze right after login if i try to open a folder, its random. but every time i find the same stuff in the logs i posted in my other thread

currently my system has been up 15 hours since it last froze and i had to hard reset.

i've been hoping a kernel update will come along to fix this?

cngn · 2010-05-09 22:25:34

try this http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=96622

DonVla · 2010-05-09 23:56:58

Perhaps it´s related to hpet.
Try "hpet=disable" as a kernel boot option.

PS: Setting acpi off is the very last resort. Afterwards you have no power management at all.
That´s not really a solution.
I guess it is a clocksource issue. This is a regression bug which appears in almost every newer kernel release.
PPS: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=74630

Last edited by DonVla (2010-05-10 00:06:17)

ssl6 · 2010-05-10 01:36:12

i just added hpet=disable to my kernel line in my grub configuration. i'll find out soon enough if it helps. it'll take effect next time i have to hard reset. can't speak for the OP though

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