How do you make Archlinux boot up as fast as Ubuntu Lucid?

*vitali* · 2010-05-01 22:43:45

According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9211350 ubuntu lucid boots up faster because of the removal of hal, upstart, ureadahead, XSplash. How do you achieve similar boot speeds in ArchLinux? ( step by step instructions/tutorial would be nice)

jasonwryan · 2010-05-01 22:53:18

Like this? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Twe … _boot_time

fflarex · 2010-05-01 22:56:10

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=72156

*vitali* · 2010-05-01 22:57:05

That is missing I think all the elements mentioned which make ubuntu boot faster.

jasonwryan · 2010-05-01 23:15:21

*vitali* wrote:

That is missing I think all the elements mentioned which make ubuntu boot faster.

Actually, no. It is a resource that suggests how to speed up Arch. And, if you read through it closely, you will see that it provides everything you need. There isn't much point expecting there to be a corresponding step-by-step guide here when Arch is about building your own system... If you want readahead, there is a link to the AUR package, you can uninstall hal etc.,

fflarex · 2010-05-01 23:17:01

Well Arch is not Ubuntu. Unless you are familiar with the initscripts from both distros (in which case you wouldn't be asking this question), you should forget about why Ubuntu is faster and focus more on actual boot times. HAL can be removed once xorg 1.8 hits extra. Arch never had upstart or xsplash, etc.

Arch is pretty fast already, and there aren't too many ways to speed it up without becoming machine-specific.

EDIT: @jasonwryan: ugh, you beat me twice in a row!

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wonder · 2010-05-01 23:20:45

actually you are not supposed to remove hal from daemons just because xorg 1.8 doesn't use it anymore. You can remove it only if your applications that you use it are not relaying on hal anymore. For example kde is still using hal for automount stuff, lxde the same and a lot of file managers.

and to me more in the topic. HAL removal is not the reason of speeding boot time in ubuntu.

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combuster · 2010-05-01 23:31:55

And I never understood the reasons for chasing faster boot times anyways...

falconindy · 2010-05-01 23:41:43

combuster wrote:

And I never understood the reasons for chasing faster boot times anyways...

1) press power button.
2) go find coffee.
3) ????
4) profit.

Also, still unrelated to boot time, but Ubuntu doesn't remove HAL -- they just delay its start until after X starts as its not needed to get a GUI up and running.

lol @ "faster because of Xsplash"

George.Harmony · 2010-05-01 23:48:23

falconindy wrote:

Also, still unrelated to boot time, but Ubuntu doesn't remove HAL -- they just delay its start until after X starts as its not needed to get a GUI up and running.

Sounds like a windoze trick. They use to show the desktop long before it was ever usable in Win 98 so they could decrease their boot times.

As Combuster said why chase faster boot times. As long as its under 60 seconds I am happy. If i cared that much about a quick boot time i'd just leave the computer running in a sleep state

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fflarex · 2010-05-01 23:57:24

wonder wrote:

actually you are not supposed to remove hal from daemons just because xorg 1.8 doesn't use it anymore. You can remove it only if your applications that you use it are not relaying on hal anymore. For example kde is still using hal for automount stuff, lxde the same and a lot of file managers.
and to me more in the topic. HAL removal is not the reason of speeding boot time in ubuntu.

I guess you're right. I forgot there were other uses for HAL since I only need it for X.

combuster · 2010-05-02 00:00:36

LOL, yep, and also I hate when some bad a** warning message appears and I miss it

It's kinda silly that while chasing faster boot times Ubuntu forgot about some essentials like FUNCTIONAL KEYBOARD AND TOUCHPAD !!!

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … bug/359480

That was the point when I switched to Arch Notice how much time it took for 'em to fix the issue. Point is - forget about boot times and make sure everything works like it should...

cesura · 2010-05-02 00:09:06

Ubuntu? Fast boot? Where am I?

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Misfit138 · 2010-05-02 00:17:08

itsbrad212 wrote:

Ubuntu? Fast boot? Where am I?

Exactly. What planet am I on?
If this is not just a troll, and the OP is actually serious about speeding up boot times, then just:
1 background everything
2 if nothing breaks, keep it that way, or
3 fix it till it's not broken
(optionally) 4 refer to wiki page linked above for more

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