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#1 2010-05-05 03:01:33

JerichoKru
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Fan not spinning up/no module for ACPI PM

I'm a little confused here.

First off, this is a laptop (an old Toshiba) with a Celeron-M (420?).  It can't run too long before shutting down because it gets too hot because the fan will not spin up.  The actual fan is fine, as it runs properly on windows.

I looked around when I was trying to get ACPI up and running for power management(it couldn't find a proper module to use) and found this:

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33104


Do I need this?

I did try installing it yesterday (with the working pkgbuild in the most recent comment) and while building the kernel, it "spammed" warnings all over and I didn't bother using it.  I didn't change anything in the kernel config menu.

Last edited by JerichoKru (2010-05-06 21:00:06)

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#2 2010-05-05 03:20:02

lagagnon
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Re: Fan not spinning up/no module for ACPI PM

What is the exact model number of that laptop?


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#3 2010-05-05 05:24:21

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Re: Fan not spinning up/no module for ACPI PM

L35-S2174

It's old.

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#4 2010-05-06 15:45:25

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Re: Fan not spinning up/no module for ACPI PM

Well, this seems to be solved.  After re-installing, I noticed that p4-clockmod would work...so I'm not sure what;s going on...

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#5 2010-05-06 21:28:20

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Re: Fan not spinning up/no module for ACPI PM

Not solved.  Fan will not speed up at all.  Can only go into X for about 20-40 seconds before screen goes black and system locks.

Black screen probably not related to xorg, since the log shows no errors.


Following this page did not help: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_Speed_Control

lm_sensors shows only 2 outputs, both temperature:

coretemp-isa-0000

acpitz-virtual-0

What's going on?



Specs
Model is above
Celeron M 420 1.6Ghz
Xpress 200m
2GB generic ram (passed memtest)
160GB Samsung HDD

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#6 2010-05-07 16:31:11

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Re: Fan not spinning up/no module for ACPI PM

No one knows anything?

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#7 2010-05-07 17:06:31

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Re: Fan not spinning up/no module for ACPI PM

Toshibas for whatever reason are not friendly to Linux. I'm running one with "acpi=ht" in the grub boot line (results in "select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out" error for both cores, but does not with acpi=off). There are no ACPI functions (nothing in /sys whatsoever) but the fan does speed up and down at times (unlike with acpi=off, where it always runs at default speed) (temperature from the only hardware monitor found hangs around 64 degrees celsius, usually),

[skyalmian@alcyone ~]$ sensors
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:       +63.0°C  (high = +70.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

and no power management to speak of, including battery -- it's all unrecognized by the system, even with installed packages. Meh, I'm fine with it, though. It just means that without knowing the status of the battery I keep mental track of how long the system is on when not plugged in. This Toshiba L505D-S5983 had a poor battery rating on Windows @ only 2 hours max doing generic things, so I round down to just one hour. I was using it one day without it plugged in and it just shut off when the battery went empty.

Threads you should see about Toshibas

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=87573
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=90942
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=87213
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=86802

(For anyone with ArchWiki access, can/maybe add this.)

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#8 2010-05-07 20:03:42

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Re: Fan not spinning up/no module for ACPI PM

Thanks for the info.   What I find weird is that I tried PCLinuxOS and antix on this laptop...both had no issues with the fan.

Arch would freak out(I/O errors galore) if I added acpi=ht to my grub line.  It did accept acpi_osi="Linux".  For the short time I could use it, I saw no change in the fan.


Though I might think there is something wrong with the X server or something...since I got into X for about 30 seconds and the monitor had an acid trip and locked up.  What's even weirder is that the Xorg log shows no issues.

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#9 2010-05-08 01:07:56

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Re: Fan not spinning up/no module for ACPI PM

Perhaps bit version matters. Windows 7 Home Premium 32 was on this laptop. I installed Arch 64 after finding it was capable. Evidently not fully. I now wonder if Arch 32 would have resulted in none of these issues I have on this.

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#10 2010-05-08 05:38:38

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Re: Fan not spinning up/no module for ACPI PM

Skyalmian wrote:

Perhaps bit version matters. Windows 7 Home Premium 32 was on this laptop. I installed Arch 64 after finding it was capable. Evidently not fully. I now wonder if Arch 32 would have resulted in none of these issues I have on this.

I used 32bit arch for this, because of the old processor(errored when I loaded 64 bit).



I went through a full re-install.  I actually heard the fan spin up. big_smile

However, after a few minutes of working, it locked up (was able to move mouse cursor, nothing else).

Tried it just now, instead of locking up, the screen did some sort of "fade to white".  Temps before this were perfectly normal.


This is so baffling.

Last edited by JerichoKru (2010-05-08 05:40:19)

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