KDE SC 4.5 beta 1 cucumber is out - i am excited as hell!

Labello · 2010-05-27 15:42:08

hi everyone!

i just read on phoronix the following news:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … &px=ODI5MQ

the key features read like a wishlist for christmas of a decade don't you think? i saw some screenshot with the new tray icons and notifications and i am SO keen on getting my fingers to it... this is gonna rock as hell...

i think the most interesting feature is the support of window-tiling... i always wanted to try out some tiling wm but never wanted to leave my so much beloved KDE environment

what do you people think?

Teho · 2010-05-27 17:40:25

Well I'm pretty sure that I can't wait till final relase. I started using (only) KDE SC 4.4 when beta 1 was relased, same might happen this time too :d

New notifying system seems superb and pretty much everything seems to be going in right direction. It's bit sad that KDE PIM 2 or KMail 2 - not sure, can't make it to the SC 4.5.0 relase but yeah. Nice indeed.

Now I'm eagerly waiting for SC 4.6.

tavianator · 2010-05-27 18:00:06

Labello's link wrote:

... the KWin window manager now supports tiling ...

Been following the development of this for a while, it's nice to see it make it into a release.

I'll be updating to [kde-unstable] later today.

kokoko3k · 2010-05-27 18:24:20

I hope for a snappier dolphin (maybe kio_file), really.
Compared to pcmanfm or thunar it's a pig.

Labello · 2010-05-27 18:36:47

i wonder if there will be any tighter integration of nepomuk/strigi into dolphin?

like the more extensive and faciliated use of tags and the virtual files-system?

toxygen · 2010-05-27 19:01:47

Excellent news! I love KDE

Teho wrote:

Well I'm pretty sure that I can't wait till final relase. I started using (only) KDE SC 4.4 when beta 1 was relased, same might happen this time too :d
New notifying system seems superb and pretty much everything seems to be going in right direction. It's bit sad that KDE PIM 2 or KMail 2 - not sure, can't make it to the SC 4.5.0 relase but yeah. Nice indeed.
Now I'm eagerly waiting for SC 4.6.

No kmail update? that's sad. so far i havent had any major issues with kontact/kmail, though i've seen others having issues. in 4.4 it did come a long way from how it was at 4.2 and earlier.

toad · 2010-05-27 19:04:34

Biggest area of improvement afaic is akonadi - be interesting what they cooked up.

Oh, and I can't wait for a proper tiling system!

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Labello · 2010-05-27 20:03:59

i did switch to kde-unstable so here are some screens:

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pseudonomous · 2010-05-27 21:46:08

kde.org wrote:

Initially planned for KDE SC 4.5.0, the KDE PIM team have decided to delay the release of the Akonadi-based KMail for one month. The new version of KMail will be delivered as part of one of KDE's monthly bugfix updates. In the meantime, the stable version of KMail from KDE SC 4.4 will be maintained

At least those eager for kmail update won't have to wait for 4.6.0, though. I'm really psyched about proper tiling being added to kwin; the Win7-style tiling is kind of snappy, but real tiling will be even better.

Ranguvar · 2010-05-27 22:30:50

Why does KDE have to be so freaking sexy?
Temptation, leading me astray from minimalism :<

Anonymo · 2010-05-27 23:09:57

Is there a way to compile kmix with OSS support?

badger · 2010-05-28 01:45:05

I'm looking forward to better 'activities': to map docs and urls to a given task in a more integrated fashion. Not complete, but slowly getting there I hope: http://chani.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/a … es-in-4-5/

Teho · 2010-05-28 10:20:12

toxygen wrote:

No kmail update? that's sad. so far i havent had any major issues with kontact/kmail, though i've seen others having issues. in 4.4 it did come a long way from how it was at 4.2 and earlier.

As far as I know it's supposed to be relased officaly with 4.5.1. So about month after initial 4.5 relase but still :d

Skripka · 2010-05-28 13:26:55

Has Konqueror been fixed? Or is it still as broken as it was in 4.0? I've read about the Webkit option in the release announcement, but jeeez I was doing that back in 4.1.

evot · 2010-05-28 14:25:15

KDE is always getting better and better..

Few very interesting features like tiling, notifications, blur and many more.. can't wait to have those.
But i'm goin to wait for final release, cause i need this computer in my daily tasks.

Mountainjew · 2010-05-28 15:03:33

Damn you KDE, i'm not going back!

*Holds Gnome tightly*

Labello · 2010-05-28 16:18:38

evot wrote:

But i'm goin to wait for final release, cause i need this computer in my daily tasks.

smart decision! i activated kde-snapshot and it still is very rough around the edges. but where the heck am i supposed to file some bugs against this beta? i could not find any link within the release anouncement...

edit: embarrasing:
https://bugs.kde.org/

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Bralkein · 2010-05-29 11:53:23

kde wrote:

Users that prefer WebKit above the KHTML rendering engine currently used in Konqueror, KDE's web browser now can install the WebKit component and switch Konqueror to use WebKit as rendering engine for web sites. The WebKit component for Konqueror is available from KDE's Extragear repository, is based on the popular KPart component technology and fully integrates with password storage, content-blocking and other features users already know and love in Konqueror.

Whoa, sweet!

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Labello · 2010-05-29 12:08:48

Bralkein wrote:

Whoa, sweet!

well it could be but konqueror fails to start on my install... dunno why...

as well as ktorrent and kdevelop.

b9anders · 2010-05-29 13:54:42

well, kde 4.5 was what the grave skeptics said they would wait for until using KDE around kde 4.1. I haven't used KDE since 4.3 - how far has it come since then?

Has the whole akonadi integration they've talked so much about (and promised in 4.3) come about yet?

Skripka · 2010-05-29 14:03:17

Bralkein wrote:

kde wrote:
Users that prefer WebKit above the KHTML rendering engine currently used in Konqueror, KDE's web browser now can install the WebKit component and switch Konqueror to use WebKit as rendering engine for web sites. The WebKit component for Konqueror is available from KDE's Extragear repository, is based on the popular KPart component technology and fully integrates with password storage, content-blocking and other features users already know and love in Konqueror.
Whoa, sweet!

Um, you DO know that you've been able to use the Webkit KPart with Konqueror for over 1 year now, do you not? As a matter of fact, it is the ONLY way Konqueror is remotely usable as an internet browser. Arre there that few improvements in KDE4.5 that they have to advertise a 1 year old ability?

KHTML is an albatross, and Konqueror is in a primitive state compared to ANY other web browser out there--even Internet Explorer. I'd love to love Konqueror, but they need to fix it. It hasn't had ANY noticeable improvement done to it since KDE4.1

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Teho · 2010-05-29 14:10:19

b9anders wrote:

Has the whole akonadi integration they've talked so much about (and promised in 4.3) come about yet?

Well most KDE PIM apps will be using Akonadi after KDE 4.5.1, however there will remain few which still won't like Akregator and KAlarm(?). It also seems that Kopete's akonadi based history plugin didn't make it to this relase. Konqueror's bookmarks will also be use akonadi.

mutlu_inek · 2010-05-30 18:30:52

There seem to be a few issues with the first beta that had been introduced by a few last-minute commits; they even released a new, unplanned snapshot a few days after the beta release. I think I will wait until beta 2 to update my system with ProgDan's unstable repo.

dhave · 2010-06-03 03:57:54

I'm in the mood to try KDE4.5 beta using the kde-unstable repo, but I'm a bit worried about going whole-hog with everything in testing, as recommended at http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dev … :KDE#Users.

Has anyone installed kde4.5 from kde-unstable without updating from testing and community-testing repos?

Or should I just play it safe and do what the docs say? [Bad Angel: "Where's the fun in that?"; Good Angel: "Why put your rock-solid system at risk?"]

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KlavKalashj · 2010-06-03 04:30:29

I also want to try the beta, but I'm afraid to break my system Yesterdays update of KDE (4.4.4) was a disaster to me, I was to fast, and all packages weren't even online, so KDE refused to start Easy fix, just wait and update, but annoying. I'm gonna wait at least for beta2, then I'll probably update

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