The i3 thread

Atsutane · 2010-09-11 20:05:05

Well I already posted it in here once, though it's been some weeks, you can get it here: http://t.zekjur.net/i3-tree.pdf

archman-cro · 2010-09-11 20:30:52

Can anyone instruct me on how to use multiple monitors? The guide is not enough for me.
What I'm trying to do is placing workspace 4 on VGA1 (external monitor).
I've tried adding "workspace 4 output VGA1" in .i3/config and issuing "xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --right-of LVDS1", but then it outputs everything on VGA1 and leaves the laptop screen (primary display) with workspace 4 (according to i3-wsbar, which shows it's on ws 4) but it doesn't look like ws4 (my usual ws 4 has two terminals opened), this one displays only conky (exactly the same like on workspace 1 by default). If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it.

Ogion · 2010-09-11 20:39:03

Weird, that's exactly like i do it (i mean did it when borrowing my brothers monitor to test this out).
workspace 5 output VGA1
and:

% which xrandrvga1
xrandrvga1 () {
xrandr --output VGA1 --auto --right-of LVDS1
}

(Sorry not helpful i guess)

Ogion

archman-cro · 2010-09-11 20:41:34

Thanks for the help, mate. Someone might have a different config to ours, so I'll see.

marfig · 2010-09-11 20:47:54

OMG, Atsutane. How could I have missed those excellent news!
I can see now where you originally posted it. My apologies.

Browsed through the document and this is simply awesome (pun totally intended). The two features I wanted most in i3 are there. Namely, each window in its own container and scriptable layouts. The ability to act on split "containers" is also tremendous. I didn't know I wanted that until you showed me

I'm only curious as to the choice for JSON. I have nothing against it, mind you. And I'm confortable around it (If I wasn't, it's not hard either). But if this was for reasons of space, XML with attribute encoding could be used instead and you would guarantee a widely known format to us loveable users, while possibly reducing the size even further. In any case horray! I can hardly wait.

litemotiv · 2010-09-12 10:33:42

marfig wrote:

I'm only curious as to the choice for JSON. I have nothing against it, mind you. And I'm confortable around it (If I wasn't, it's not hard either). But if this was for reasons of space, XML with attribute encoding could be used instead and you would guarantee a widely known format to us loveable users, while possibly reducing the size even further. In any case horray! I can hardly wait.

The primary arguments: JSON is simpler and smaller than XML, has C-style encoding so data can be mapped more directly without external libraries, and it can be parsed natively by script languages like javascript.

Ogion · 2010-09-12 12:00:23

Also xml is much more ugly than json

Ogion

apa512 · 2010-09-13 17:19:23

Is there any way to change the background colors of the i3bar? The red default doesn't go very well with the rest of my desktop.

Wintervenom · 2010-09-13 18:22:46

apa512 wrote:

Is there any way to change the background colors of the i3bar? The red default doesn't go very well with the rest of my desktop.

Change the parameter of the get_colorpixel() calls in "xcb.c." Look for:
• Unselected workspace: uint32_t color = get_colorpixel("240000")
• Selected workspace: color after line ws_walk->visible
• Urgent hint: color after line ws_walk->urgent

Last edited by Wintervenom (2010-09-13 18:25:35)

archman-cro · 2010-09-13 22:29:25

Atsutane wrote:

Well I already posted it in here once, though it's been some weeks, you can get it here: http://t.zekjur.net/i3-tree.pdf

I guess that resizing of containers will be more flexible and easier to use then. Looking forward to it.

archman-cro · 2010-09-20 18:03:41

Anyone experienced that snapping sometimes just won't work until i3 is restarted? (Mod1+Ctrl+:)

marfig · 2010-09-20 19:13:12

Hmm, not here. Has yet to happen to me on version 3.ε-bf1.

Army · 2010-09-20 20:50:00

I actually don't have ANY problems with i3 so far.

Inxsible · 2010-09-20 21:09:22

Me neither

archman-cro · 2010-09-20 21:27:29

Must be my mistake then. I'll keep testing.

tremol · 2010-09-26 07:00:53

After having used wmii for a while, I have decided to give i3 a try. I've hit a pretty serious problem, however: any time I try to close a window, even with the default configuration file, i3 stops responding to any commands (e.g., move focus or move window). If I had a terminal open and active right before I tried to close the window, I can still type and work in that terminal, but I cannot switch to any others, and once I try to close that one, I am stuck for good.

i3 freezes up in the same way whenever it encounters pretty much any error. For instance, if I type a bogus program into dmenu and press enter, or if I have a non-existent terminal program assigned to Shift-Enter. Then when I press Shift-Enter, it can't find the program and locks up.

Aside from this major issue, I find that I rather like i3, though it is missing the good ol' tag system for workspaces from wmii.

Any and all help is most appreciated.
Thanks!

Mod edit: merged with i3 thread

Last edited by litemotiv (2010-09-26 07:29:58)

marfig · 2010-09-26 14:11:24

tremol wrote:

After having used wmii for a while, I have decided to give i3 a try. I've hit a pretty serious problem, however: any time I try to close a window, even with the default configuration file, i3 stops responding to any commands (e.g., move focus or move window). If I had a terminal open and active right before I tried to close the window, I can still type and work in that terminal, but I cannot switch to any others, and once I try to close that one, I am stuck for good.
i3 freezes up in the same way whenever it encounters pretty much any error. For instance, if I type a bogus program into dmenu and press enter, or if I have a non-existent terminal program assigned to Shift-Enter. Then when I press Shift-Enter, it can't find the program and locks up.

I'm afraid that is completely new to me. I've never experienced, or heard of anyone, experiencing those problems with i3.

There's however something in your report I can relate to. If I try to open a console-only application from dmenu, i3 becomes unresponsive and I have to restart. But this is a bug (or feature) of dmenu and not everyone experiences it. Dmenu cannot open console-only application without some script magic. Earlier in this thread this issue is debated and solutions are presented, although I came to not use any of them since I've learned to use dmenu as a launcher of GUI applications only, and prefer to open a terminal and start any console applications from within.

If you are experiencing this problem with GUI applications too, I'm at loss as to what may be the problem. Possibly something wrong with your X installation. Or if this is only a problem with the terminal, maybe something wrong with it. Somehow, I don't think i3 is the problem here.

Last edited by marfig (2010-09-26 14:14:36)

tremol · 2010-09-27 17:47:04

It is possible that X is the problem, as i3 does crash when I try to close X applications also. However, it even crashes if I click the "okay" button on the "Welcome to i3!" message, which would otherwise close the window. Furthermore, I have tried many different window managers, from compiz to Xmonad, and this is the first to exhibit this kind of issue, or anything close to it.

Any suggestions on which log files I might check to see what's breaking? The i3 log file doesn't show any signs of error at all, similarly with the /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Where else might be good to look?

marfig · 2010-09-27 17:58:52

Welcome to i3 message!?

Inxsible · 2010-09-27 20:16:21

marfig wrote:

Welcome to i3 message!?

That's a message that you get the first time you log into i3. You can disable this via the config file.

Ogion · 2010-09-28 08:37:16

Or rather it is the last line of the default config file and you can disable it by having your own config and deleting that lline (if you copied the default config).

And sorry tremol, but i don't have any idea about your problem.

Ogion

ckottke · 2010-09-28 19:05:44

Try redirecting (console) output of i3 to /dev/null. That solved freezing problems for me. Not quite sure why that worked (race condition on debug messages to the console?), but I haven't had a freeze since.

Inxsible · 2010-09-28 20:00:55

ckottke wrote:

Try redirecting (console) output of i3 to /dev/null. That solved freezing problems for me. Not quite sure why that worked (race condition on debug messages to the console?), but I haven't had a freeze since.

If that does solve the problem, then you should also consider filing a bug report. output of i3 and logging etc should not cause such behavior.

marfig · 2010-09-28 20:11:05

Inxsible wrote:

marfig wrote:
Welcome to i3 message!?
That's a message that you get the first time you log into i3. You can disable this via the config file.

Checked. Something that is not present in 3.ε-bf1, I believe.
I did use the git version for a short while though. But honestly couldn't remember seeing it either. Maybe its a recent addition?

Inxsible · 2010-09-28 20:15:31

Nope you must have missed it. I use 3e-bf1 and I have the config where you can enable/disable.

Also this is a holdover from wmii ( from which i3 was inspired) wmii also has a first time welcome message.

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