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#251 2010-10-09 17:34:12

tremol
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Re: The i3 thread

No dice, unfortunately. I've tried disabling the welcome message, disabling logging, redirecting console output to /dev/null, and even stopping chromium from starting automatically with X. I still get the same freezing problem every time, and have no idea where to look for the relevant errors.

Oh well, I guess I'll stick to wmii until a new i3 version comes out, and hope I get lucky. Thank you all for your help!

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#252 2010-10-10 02:14:30

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Re: The i3 thread

I am having the terminal problem, too.
Sometimes, if I launch URxvt, I can't use the i3 bindings until I close the terminal, and then launch it again, and it will work that time.

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#253 2010-10-11 03:46:10

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Re: The i3 thread

do any of your i3 bindings conflict with xbindkeys keybindings?

I once had some issues with certain keybindings that were in conflict probably because either i3 or xbindkeys were in a race condition to capture the keystrokes.


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#254 2010-10-11 19:36:12

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Re: The i3 thread

I never had any problems regarding keybindings with these two, if this reoccurs I'd recommend to attach gdb and take a look with that.


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#255 2010-10-16 12:43:42

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Re: The i3 thread

Hi guys.

I installed arch linux and i3 on my netbook about two weeks ago. I'm running it together with the firefox+vimperator combo and I really like it (never used a tiling wm before). It works great and I'm really starting to get efficient without a mouse. For the record I am also using the i3bar package from AUR (together with i3status) and it works without any problems. smile

However, there is especially one thing that I still need to use the trackpad for, copy & paste. So I thought I'd see if any of you have any tips on how to make copy & paste less painful? Mostly I use these functions in firefox and the terminal (urxvt).

Regards,
Chris

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#256 2010-10-16 13:04:02

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Re: The i3 thread

ccchris wrote:

However, there is especially one thing that I still need to use the trackpad for, copy & paste. So I thought I'd see if any of you have any tips on how to make copy & paste less painful? Mostly I use these functions in firefox and the terminal (urxvt).

Maybe this is something for you? New urxvt extension for mouseless text selection


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#257 2010-10-16 15:54:14

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Re: The i3 thread

litemotiv wrote:
ccchris wrote:

However, there is especially one thing that I still need to use the trackpad for, copy & paste. So I thought I'd see if any of you have any tips on how to make copy & paste less painful? Mostly I use these functions in firefox and the terminal (urxvt).

Maybe this is something for you? New urxvt extension for mouseless text selection

Thanks for the tip, works like a charm smile

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#258 2010-10-16 18:42:22

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Re: The i3 thread

Atsutane wrote:

Well I already posted it in here once, though it's been some weeks, you can get it here: http://t.zekjur.net/i3-tree.pdf

God damn it! I will have to move from wmii to i3 at some point.

Seriously, why did they make a fork of wmii? Was the suckless community reluctant to take in some crucial patch?

Also, does anybody know whether the i3 developers will ever change their mind on xft/pango? That was what turned me off the last time I looked into i3.


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#259 2010-10-16 19:04:05

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i3 is not a fork of wmii, it is inspired by it, but because of the condition of the wmii source, the decision was made to write a complete new window manager from scratch, using the asynchronous XCB library instead of the synchronous Xlib. Regarding xft/pango, well yeah, if you want to have it, write a patch, maybe it's included as optional code ;-).


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#260 2010-10-16 19:10:07

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Re: The i3 thread

Does anyone have a working i3 + transparent urxvt configuration?

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#261 2010-10-16 19:57:15

Pank
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Re: The i3 thread

Atsutane wrote:

i3 is not a fork of wmii, it is inspired by it

You are right. I don't know what I was thinking. The basic logic of of the original question apply, though. Thanks for clarifying. Out of curiosity: is the wmii source code very messy?

the decision was made to write a complete new window manager from scratch, using the asynchronous XCB library instead of the synchronous Xlib.

I read about XCB on an Emacs blog the other day. I am not sure I appreciate the difference between XCB and Xlib, though. . . Which probably also make me a bad candidate for patching anything but the simplest *sh scripts.

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#262 2010-10-16 21:06:07

Army
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Re: The i3 thread

Arthenik wrote:

Does anyone have a working i3 + transparent urxvt configuration?

Yes, that works. What is your problem?

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#263 2010-10-16 21:17:57

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I have cairo-compmgr and the following .Xdefaults:

! URxvt.background: #000033
! URxvt.foreground: #ffffcc

URxvt.font: xft:DejaVu Sans Mono:size=10
URxvt.boldFont: xft:DejaVu Sans Mono:size=10:style=Bold
URxvt.scrollBar: False
URxvt.scrollTtyOutput: False
URxvt.scrollTtyKeypress: True
URxvt.scrollTtyScroll: True
URxvt.saveLines: 8000
! workaround - cursor not showing
URxvt.cursorUnderline:  true
! enable transparency
URxvt.shading: 45
URxvt.transparent: true
URxvt.InheritPixmap: true
Urxvt.matcher.button: 1
URxvt.urlLauncher: /usr/bin/firefox
URxvt.cursorBlink: true
URxvt.fading: 25%
URxvt.depth: 32
URxvt.background: rgba:0000/0000/0000/cccc
URxvt.foreground: grey80
URxvt.tintColor: white
URxvt.tint: #000
URxvt.urgentOnBell: true
Urxvt.perl-lib: /usr/lib/urxvt/perl/
Urxvt.perl-ext-common: default,matcher

*background:     #121212
!black
*color0:         #171717
!*color0:         #353535
*color8:         #666666
!red
*color1:         #AE4747
*color9:         #EE6363
!green
*color2:         #556B2F
*color10:        #9ACD32
!brown/yellow
*color3:         #DAA520
*color11:        #FFC125
!blue
*color4:         #008dd5
!*color4:         #6F99B4
*color12:        #7C96B0
!magenta
*color5:         #8B7B8B
*color13:        #D8BFD8
!cyan
*color6:         #A7A15E
*color14:        #F0E68C
!white
*color7:         #DDDDDD
*color15:        #FFFFFF

*foreground:     #DDDDDD

Xcursor.theme: Obsidian

URxvt.perl-ext-common: default,matcher
URxvt.urlLauncher: firefox
URxvt.matcher.button: 2
URxvt.matcher.pattern.1: \\bwww\\.[\\w-]\\.[\\w./?&@#-]*[\\w/-]

Windows are not transparent in i3. In Xmonad, everything works just fine.

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#264 2010-10-16 21:43:50

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Well i3 doesn't use cairo so I assume that's why this compositing Manager doesn't work. However I don't see sense for a real transparency in tiling window managers, as most windows are tiled and only a small subset of windows like wine or dialogues of graphical apps float. So the pseudo transparency with urxvt should be fine or? Else try xcompmgr as we already had in this thread.


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#265 2010-10-16 22:15:49

Arthenik
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Re: The i3 thread

Pseudo transparency should be enabled with this configuration as far as I know. Yet the windows are not see-through, not even with xcompmgr.

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#266 2010-10-16 22:37:02

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Re: The i3 thread

Remove this line:

URxvt.depth: 32

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#267 2010-10-16 22:45:30

Arthenik
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Re: The i3 thread

That fixed my problem and it even works with cairo-compmgr!

Thanks alot! smile

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#268 2010-10-22 23:13:10

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Re: The i3 thread

i have just installed i3 for the first-time and i was trying to change the font and the color of the titlebar. some digging revealed that using xfontsel could give me the string used to specify the font that i want to use. trouble is that the page mentions that i3 uses only xcore fonts and not xft for rendering window titles.
so how do i find out if a particular font is xft or xcore? i am guessing that the "older" fonts so to speak are xcore and the newer freetype fonts are probably not, but how do i find out for sure?
also how do i change the color of the title bar so that it matches the gtk2 theme that i have installed?

thanks in advance smile

Mod edit: merged with i3 thread

Last edited by litemotiv (2010-10-23 09:00:39)


...he has no ambition and no energy. He will not even go out of his way to verify his own solutions, and would rather be considered wrong than take the trouble to prove himself right. Again and again I have taken a problem to him, and have received an explanation which has afterwards proved to be the correct one. And yet he was absolutely incapable of working out the practical points...

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#269 2010-10-23 03:49:01

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Re: The i3 thread

you might want to search for "the i3 thread" started by yours truly, which lists a few of the nifty things you can do with i3. Ogion and gasj mention ways that you can change your color schemes etc.


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#270 2010-10-23 10:28:55

wahi
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Re: The i3 thread

oh i did not check to see that there was already an 11 page long thread on i3 running.
now to read from page 1 smile


...he has no ambition and no energy. He will not even go out of his way to verify his own solutions, and would rather be considered wrong than take the trouble to prove himself right. Again and again I have taken a problem to him, and have received an explanation which has afterwards proved to be the correct one. And yet he was absolutely incapable of working out the practical points...

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#271 2010-10-23 14:45:07

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Re: The i3 thread

Pank: I think wmii sources are clean, indeed. After all, it is from the suckless people. But I will just stay with dwm for now smile.


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#272 2010-11-05 21:44:16

puer
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Re: The i3 thread

Hey all,

I've been using the default i3 config for some time now.  Checking the forums, I've seen people have been recommending i3bar.

For those of you using i3 with i3bar, I'm curious to see what your configs look like?  So far I've been unsuccessful in producing anything that actually works hmm

Thx!

Mod edit: merged with i3 thread

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#273 2010-11-10 17:07:50

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Re: The i3 thread

can i also start programs with a given size? because i have running pidgin on desktop 3 and it always starts in fullscreen mode which is too big (1080p monitor).

i also would like to start opera on one half of the desktop

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#274 2010-11-11 15:12:17

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Re: The i3 thread

You can say pidgin should be in floating mode, that'd be "assign pidgin ~" in your config, but i don't think you can tell it a certain size. Also i don't think you can let i3 do automatically the creating of a container and assigning opera to it. i3 is a manual tiler and not an automatic one. (But i might be wrong, wait for some other answers too)

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#275 2010-11-13 12:07:07

n0de
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Re: The i3 thread

Hi,

just started using i3, after having used musca for some time now. Why manual tiling WM automaticaly splits screen horizontaly when new window is opened ? isn't there a possibility to manualy layout windows in stacking mode ? i haven't found in the official page/manual/configs how to manualy layout... like in musca i had there was win + h to split horizontaly, win + v - vertical split etc. there were comands like hssplit % to split screen horizontaly by the percentage you specify. So are there such things in i3 ?

sincerely,
n0de.

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