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#1 2010-06-22 14:16:04

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consolekit and the depreciation of HAL [SOLVED]

On my system consolekit is only required by HAL and if I ever can get rid of HAL, naturally Id probably get rid of its dependencies too. However consolekit afaik, is used for giving users the right permissions. So my questions:

Is there a replacement for consolekit? Or do I have to keep it?
Does GDM work without consolekit (does it give the right permissions)? If so, how?

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#2 2010-06-22 17:17:05

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Re: consolekit and the depreciation of HAL [SOLVED]

Hal requires consolekit, not the other way round, which means you can keep consolekit.

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#3 2010-06-22 17:52:47

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Re: consolekit and the depreciation of HAL [SOLVED]

Yes I know I can keep consolekit but do I have to? What will break by not using it?

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#4 2010-06-22 18:16:36

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Re: consolekit and the depreciation of HAL [SOLVED]

pacman -Qi consolekit | grep 'Required'

EDIT: Oh, and according to here, the only things that require consolekit are hal and wicd.

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#5 2010-06-22 20:39:35

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Re: consolekit and the depreciation of HAL [SOLVED]

I already know consolekit is required by HAL. Please read my questions.

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#6 2010-06-22 21:21:12

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Re: consolekit and the depreciation of HAL [SOLVED]

anonymous_user wrote:

I already know consolekit is required by HAL. Please read my questions.

You should have been given enough information to make your conclusions. I really don't see what this fuzz is all about.

anonymous_user wrote:

On my system consolekit is only required by HAL and if I ever can get rid of HAL, naturally Id probably get rid of its dependencies too. However consolekit afaik, is used for giving users the right permissions. So my questions:

Is there a replacement for consolekit? Or do I have to keep it?

If you don't have any program requiring consolekit (no hal, no wicd) and you don't use consolekit directly (I take it you don't), then no you do not have to keep it.

anonymous_user wrote:

Does GDM work without consolekit (does it give the right permissions)? If so, how?

GDM does not rely on consolekit, hence gdm works without it.

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#7 2010-06-22 21:31:58

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Re: consolekit and the depreciation of HAL [SOLVED]

There's a very easy, yet basic way: remove consolekit, restart your system, see what breaks.

Voilà.

There is another (more productive way) to find out whether you need it or not: read up on what it does. Once you know what it does, you'll know whether you want to keep it or not. You already seem to know what it does, so the job is already half done smile.


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#8 2010-06-22 21:51:09

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Re: consolekit and the depreciation of HAL [SOLVED]

anonymous_user wrote:

I already know consolekit is required by HAL. Please read my questions.

I did. And I did answer them. The only things that depend on it are hal and wicd. So if you don't use those, nothing will break. Because no other program in the repos uses ConsoleKit.

And since GDM is in the repos and doesn't require ConsoleKit, nothing will break.

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#9 2010-06-22 22:33:22

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Re: consolekit and the depreciation of HAL [SOLVED]

.:B:. wrote:

There's a very easy, yet basic way: remove consolekit, restart your system, see what breaks.

I guess I'll have to test it then.

.:B:. wrote:

There is another (more productive way) to find out whether you need it or not: read up on what it does. Once you know what it does, you'll know whether you want to keep it or not. You already seem to know what it does, so the job is already half done smile.

There's not a lot of documentation on consolekit though. Well thanks anyways, I'll marked this as SOLVED for now.

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