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CheatCat

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[testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

Hey I got X.Org X Server 1.11.0 and nvidia driver version 280.13. However when I start xserver I got this strange warning:

[    32.303] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
[    32.352] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[    32.455] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[    32.455] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[    32.455] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    32.456] ================ WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING ================
[    32.456] This server has a video driver ABI version of 11.0 that this
driver does not officially support.  Please check
http://www.nvidia.com/ for driver updates or downgrade to an X
server with a supported driver ABI.
[    32.456] =================================================================
[    32.456] (WW) NVIDIA: The driver will continue to load, but may behave strangely.
[    32.456] (WW) NVIDIA: This driver was compiled against the X.Org server SDK from git commit b6c7b9b2f39e970cedb6bc1e073f901e28cb0fa3 and may not be compatible with the final version of this SDK.
[    32.456] (WW) NVIDIA: This server has an unsupported input driver ABI version (have 13.0, need < 13.0).  The driver will continue to load, but may behave strangely.
[    32.545] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  280.13  Wed Jul 27 16:57:12 PDT 2011
[    32.561] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs

Shouldn't nvidia 280.13 support xserver 1.11.0? I changed xorg config file to ignore the abi warning to even be able to start xserver.

Last edited by CheatCat (2011-09-24 09:35:10)

Mr.Elendig

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

No it will not work because of a screwup by xorg. You have to wait for 1.11.1. This is mentioned on the mailing list btw, which you should read when you use testing....

Downgrade the whole xorg stack or disable testing and -Syuu

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2479727

Last edited by Mr.Elendig (2011-09-23 10:52:27)

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karol

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

The ML message Mr.Elendig mentioned: http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/ … 21479.html

Please post in appropriate subforum, or at least mention in the title you're using [testing].

Mr.Elendig

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

The ML message Mr.Elendig mentioned: http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/ … 21479.html

Please post in appropriate subforum, or at least mention in the title you're using [testing].

And http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/ … 21907.html

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CheatCat

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

Okey, thank you.

PhotonX

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

Still the same problem with 1.11.1 here. Is this a known issue?

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Gusar

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

There is no "issue". ABI changed, external drivers need to be updated. It happened plenty of times before. Nvidia does have a driver that works, the long-lived branch, currently at 275.28. But this long-lived branch isn't packaged by Arch.

Last edited by Gusar (2011-10-02 10:02:26)

karol

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

If you use xorg-server 1.11 you need to use nouveau, because the stock nvidia drivers don't work (at the moment).

The driver Gusar mentioned is in the AUR:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52283
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52285

PhotonX

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

Thanks, the problem is also solved in 285.05.09 now.

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Mr.Elendig

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

Be aware that 285.05.09 / 1.11.1 do have a cpu usage bug, that probably won't be fixed until 1.11.2

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Gusar

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

Be aware that 285.05.09 / 1.11.1 do have a cpu usage bug, that probably won't be fixed until 1.11.2

You mean the trapezoid thing? Could be that will be fix in the nvidia driver.

To check if the issue will hit you, run

nvidia-settings -q AccelerateTrapezoids

If it returns something, everything is fine. If it returns nothing, your card isn't capable of accelerating trapezoids and you'll get slowdowns until a fix comes along. The fix will be either in X or in the nvidia driver.

Cotton

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Registered: 2004-09-17

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

I had to downgrade xorg-server, xorg-server-common and a bunch of xf86 packages when using nvidia-173xx.

Will there be an upgrade to that nvidia package or will it be sorted in a later xorg release?

karol

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

I had to downgrade xorg-server, xorg-server-common and a bunch of xf86 packages when using nvidia-173xx.

Will there be an upgrade to that nvidia package or will it be sorted in a later xorg release?

Legacy nvidia drivers tend to lag a big wrt releases, it's not the first time https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=117259

I don't know any exact date, you can look on nvidia forums if you want.

ubiwahn

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Registered: 2009-01-24

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Re: [testing] xserver, problems with video driver ABI

It helped for me to add:

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "IgnoreABI" "True"
EndSection

to my /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia