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#1 2011-10-14 04:37:40

adduu
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Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

I've been on Arch since 3days now. When installed for the first time I installed SLiM, so that I can have a graphical user interface on the log on screen. But I uninstalled it. I've Xfce. The computer shut down properly for a few times. Since yesterday when I press the shut down button in the upper right corner in Xfce some coded screen comes up it says,

> POWER OFF

after this it would shut off automatically.
But now it says,

> POWER OFF
[  45656.5984714] Power down.

And it stays there forever.  I have to physically pull the power plug or shut off the main power button. I've ACPI turned ON and is in S1 State.

Please suggest how do I resolve this problem. Help would be really appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Regards,

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#2 2011-10-14 06:51:33

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

Have you only tried shutting down from within xfce? Tell us whether it works to enter "sudo poweroff" in a terminal. And since you didn't mention whether you were in the "power" group or not... make sure you are in it!


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#3 2011-10-14 13:44:11

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

ConnorBehan wrote:

Have you only tried shutting down from within xfce? Tell us whether it works to enter "sudo poweroff" in a terminal. And since you didn't mention whether you were in the "power" group or not... make sure you are in it!

Yes, I'm in the "power" group. I also tried "sudo poweroff" but that too ended giving the same result. And I had to pull the plug again.

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#4 2011-10-14 15:24:20

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

Does running "shutdown -h now" as root work? If not, what error does it return?


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#5 2011-10-17 12:44:38

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

@Rumor

I tried your method. And I got the same result. Seems pulling the plug is the only way for now.

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#6 2011-10-17 13:34:17

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

I'm suffering from the same problem but in my case it is due to faulty mobo installation (methinks). Also, have you enabled acpi settings in the BIOS?


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#7 2011-10-17 14:10:27

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

ACPI in the BIOS is currently set to S1 state, as mentioned in my first post. In the "Configure S.A.T.A. as" option I've set the mode AHCI instead of IDE.

Any other suggestions experts, please?

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#8 2011-10-17 15:37:36

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

Are you using networkmanager by any chance? Try omitting it from your rc.conf if you do and see if it makes any difference after a reboot. A few days back I've had the same problem, which was strangely caused by networkmanager, switching to wicd solved it completely.

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#9 2011-10-17 16:21:39

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

Use the command poweroff as root in the terminal.

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#10 2011-10-17 16:31:57

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

meph wrote:

Are you using networkmanager by any chance? Try omitting it from your rc.conf if you do and see if it makes any difference after a reboot. A few days back I've had the same problem, which was strangely caused by networkmanager, switching to wicd solved it completely.

I tried this. But no luck. Still the same problem.

btw, my rc.conf reads,

DAEMONS=(hwclock syslog-ng dbus networkmanager netfs crond)

One more thing. This problem not only occurs when I'm running Xfce. The system wont shutdown even when I login and then try to shut it down with sudo poweroff command, on the command line.

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#11 2011-10-17 17:42:37

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

you don't happen to have any Wake-Up functionality enabled for say your mouse, keyboard or lan card? (this would be a bios setting)

sata mode shouldn't influence this.


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#12 2011-10-17 18:01:35

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

^Nope. Wake Up function is totally disabled. One more thing that I've observed is, Just before the last message come up on the screen the keyboard lights (num, caps, scroll), they all turn ON and get off.

Then I get this message

[  45656.5984714] Power down.

The numerical string changes with every shut down command.

anything else I should check?

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#13 2011-10-17 19:16:09

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

I don't know if your problem is related to my recent problem, but you should maybe try disabling hwclock in /etc/rc.conf?

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#14 2011-10-17 19:35:12

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

the e1000e module was causing hangs similar to this a while ago, do you per chance have that module loaded?

lsmod | grep e1000e

if that module is loaded, please try this as root:

rmmod e1000e

and then try a shutdown again. Sadly, the related bugreport is unavailable with bugzilla.kernel.org being down at the moment.

The problem with this being that so many things could be causing the hang on power down.


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#15 2011-10-17 19:36:03

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

I was just going through AHCI article. And I added it to the modules. Rebuilt the kernel. Restarted the system. And VOILA the system did shut down this time. I'll check if the system shuts down and report back. May be then I can change the title to [SOLVED]


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#16 2011-10-18 10:38:21

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

@Stefan

I tried doing that. But no luck.

Yesterday night after posting the above post. The computer powered off 3-4 times successfully. This string "[ 45656.5984714] Power down" appeared for a split second and the system turned off.

But today morning I turn it ON and after doing some work shut it down and the same problem surfaces. Should I get my mobo checked or my power supply unit?

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#17 2011-10-18 11:37:37

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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

I take it running init 0 as root doesn't work?

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#18 2011-10-22 09:46:54

adduu
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Re: Arch refuses to shutdown, need to pull the plug!

Okay, guys. I have tried everything you've mentioned. I enabled AHCI in the modules, the computer then shut down for 3-4 successful attempts. Then it did not. BIOS Update was available for my mobo, so I updated it. It then powered off for again 3-4 successful attempts. And then again I'm back to square one. A friend of mine will be coming over for de-bugging. And I'll post the updates.

Thank you all for your help. In the mean time if any one else has any suggestions, please don't hesitate to post up. I'd be more than grateful. Thank you once again.

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