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archdaemon

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Registered: 2005-01-27

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Pacman amnesia

I searched this site via google - the bbs search mechanism is weird - and returned three threads that weren't especially relevant.

So anybody have an explanation for this?

[ j@althea ][ 07-13 23:50 ][ ~ ]
:pacman -Qo id3info
error: id3info is not a file.


[ j@althea ][ 07-13 23:50 ][ ~ ]
:locate id3info
/usr/bin/id3info

[ j@althea ][ 07-13 23:50 ][ ~ ]
:cdp

[ j@althea ][ 07-13 23:50 ][ /var/lib/pacman/local ]
:grep -r id3info *
id3lib-3.8.3-4/files:usr/bin/id3info

I was pretty sure I knew what owned it but thought pacman would be faster. Turned out I was right about the first and way wrong about the second. Same results for id3tag, id3convert, etc.

The only thing I can think of is that I yanked easytag and then decided I at least wanted id3lib:

[ j@althea ][ 07-14 00:03 ][ /var/lib/pacman/local ]
:grep id3lib /var/log/pacman.log 
[07/04/05 15:28] installed id3lib (3.8.3-4)
[07/10/05 10:18] removed id3lib (3.8.3-4)
[07/10/05 10:27] installed id3lib (3.8.3-4)

[ j@althea ][ 07-14 00:03 ][ /var/lib/pacman/local ]
:grep '07/10/05 10:18' /var/log/pacman.log 
[07/10/05 10:18] removed easytag (1.1-1)
[07/10/05 10:18] removed flac (1.1.2-2)
[07/10/05 10:18] removed id3lib (3.8.3-4)

but that's no excuse. The package is still there and pacman should still know it.

Cerebral

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From: Waterloo, ON, CA

Registered: 2005-04-08

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Re: Pacman amnesia

Try putting in the full search path next time... seems pacman by default doesn't search for you (which, logically, makes total sense when you think about it).

-[travis@Cerebral]-[~]-
12:05am $ pacman -Qo id3info
error: id3info is not a file.

-[travis@Cerebral]-[~]-
12:05am $ pacman -Qo /usr/bin/id3info
/usr/bin/id3info is owned by id3lib 3.8.3-4
-[travis@Cerebral]-[~]-
12:05am $ 

archdaemon

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Registered: 2005-01-27

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Re: Pacman amnesia

[ j@althea ][ 07-14 00:03 ][ /var/lib/pacman/local ]
:pacman -Qo `which id3info`
/usr/bin/id3info is owned by id3lib 3.8.3-4

Bingo. Thanks. But, actually, it doesn't make any sense. Pacman is supposed to know what everything is - might as well know where everything is. And I could have sworn I've used -Qo with a bare filename before. (I usually just grep for it, though - the '-Qo' is a new practice for me, so maybe I imagined it.)

Anyway - that's the solution. Thanks again. At least I don't have to worry that pacman's broken or something.

-- [edit] Ah. I must have just happened to be in the current directory of the programs/files I was querying about when I got results with just the name and that gave me the idea a path wasn't required.

Cerebral

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Re: Pacman amnesia

Heh, no prob.  When I say it makes perfect sense, all I mean is I can't think of any other program that searches out a filename for you... ie "gvim filename" assumes filename is in the pwd; same for any other program I can think of. 

I personally wouldn't expect pacman to behave any other way -- what if two different packages installed a file called 'id3info' to seperate folders?  That could get confusing.

archdaemon

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Re: Pacman amnesia

Heh, no prob.  When I say it makes perfect sense, all I mean is I can't think of any other program that searches out a filename for you... ie "gvim filename" assumes filename is in the pwd; same for any other program I can think of.

Well, I was thinking of it as a specialized tool. Like 'man' is an example of something that doesn't need a /usr/man/man1/foo.1.gz.

I personally wouldn't expect pacman to behave any other way -- what if two different packages installed a file called 'id3info' to seperate folders?  That could get confusing.

Good point. Though it could do something like 'man -a' to list all or just spit out all matching entries. But, yeah, I'll just think of it as giving vim a filename.