Interesting Linux Mint project "MGSE" in Gnome 3.

virubakkh · 2011-11-05 06:10:54

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1851

Mint make new shell to use in gnome 3, "Mint Gnome Shell Extensions". They make me want to use Gnome 3 (again). I think may be someone will adape it to Arch as Ayatana from Unity.

Weegee · 2011-11-05 11:36:28

At first I was like "oh wow, it looks great", but then I realised that they still need video acceleration to make it work. And that's the crux of the matter.

A few days ago I tested GNOME 3 with the new Catalyst 11.10, and it was still a mess. The game performance is just horrible, and it seems to be a problem with the GNOME Shell (I have no idea whether the situation is the same right now, though it seems to be?). So, unless the GNOME devs improve the performance (which will obviously need a long time), I can't accept GNOME 3 as a replacement for GNOME 2. The Mint Gnome Shell Extensions won't solve this problem either, however they'll at least improve the "new workflow" (application-centric <=> task-centric, as Clem described it).

Mr_ED-horsey · 2011-11-05 15:28:23

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1851

I thought this was interesting. The Mint developers seem to actually be listening to their users... I'm curious to see how stable their version of Gnome 3 will be and I'm also happy to hear that a major distro like Mint is supporting MATE... I'll be testing this on VirtualBox when it's released.

fsckd · 2011-11-05 16:04:30

mod action: moved virubakkh's thread to GNU/Linux and merged in Mr_ED-horsey's thread (original title, "Linux Mint 12 Preview... With a sane Gnome 3?").

Mr_ED-horsey · 2011-11-05 16:16:11

Weegee wrote:

At first I was like "oh wow, it looks great", but then I realised that they still need video acceleration to make it work. And that's the crux of the matter.
A few days ago I tested GNOME 3 with the new Catalyst 11.10, and it was still a mess. The game performance is just horrible, and it seems to be a problem with the GNOME Shell (I have no idea whether the situation is the same right now, though it seems to be?). So, unless the GNOME devs improve the performance (which will obviously need a long time), I can't accept GNOME 3 as a replacement for GNOME 2. The Mint Gnome Shell Extensions won't solve this problem either, however they'll at least improve the "new workflow" (application-centric <=> task-centric, as Clem described it).

FOSS developers can't really do too much with the Catalyst drivers since it's closed source. That's mainly up to the people at ATI who have proven time and again that they don't really care about Linux users. My laptop had an ATI card and I ran the shell with the open source driver and was pretty smooth (before I switched it back to openbox - personally, i like having a WM on my laptop and a DE on my pc). It ran freaking HOT though but I enabled CPU scaling and laptop-mode-tools and after that it was fine.

As far as video acceleration goes that's why they're working on adding MATE... Mint seems to be REALLY going after disenfranchised Gnome users. Very smart move on their part

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awfulrofl · 2011-11-05 17:45:29

Honestly, i find their Linux Mint 12 preview article really good. I played around with Gnome 3 and Unity for a little while, and hated both of them. But the linux mint take on gnome 3 has me intrigued to check out. Congratulations on Mint for taking over the number 1 spot on distrowatch too.

karol · 2011-11-05 17:48:49

awfulrofl wrote:

Congratulations on Mint for taking over the number 1 spot on distrowatch too.

They're still going head to head with Ubuntu ;P
http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity

Rasi · 2011-11-05 19:11:05

Weegee wrote:

At first I was like "oh wow, it looks great", but then I realised that they still need video acceleration to make it work. And that's the crux of the matter.

http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/gnome-sh … ut-3d.html

virubakkh · 2011-11-06 12:26:26

Weegee wrote:

At first I was like "oh wow, it looks great", but then I realised that they still need video acceleration to make it work. And that's the crux of the matter.

I just install Gnome 3 and MSGE from AUR. You're right. Gnome 3 with MGSE is still slow on my computer.

axel668 · 2011-11-06 15:51:14

Wonder how long Ubuntu will still be around ... thank God Mint has a Debian Edition, too, so they are prepared

Rukiri · 2011-11-08 05:08:36

awfulrofl wrote:

Honestly, i find their Linux Mint 12 preview article really good. I played around with Gnome 3 and Unity for a little while, and hated both of them. But the linux mint take on gnome 3 has me intrigued to check out. Congratulations on Mint for taking over the number 1 spot on distrowatch too.

You're not alone, however I do like gnome 3 but prefer Mint's take on the shell. The only thing I hated was hitting the activities button every time I wanted to switch a freaking window... So okay I'm not totally in love with gnome 3 as I was with gnome 2 but mgse seems to fix the window issue and makes it more task centric.

I actually would not be surprised at all if gnome made something similar to gnome 2 but with fusion of gnome 3, that would be sweet.

Awebb · 2011-11-08 06:03:21

I'm more interested in Mint maintaining Mate (that Gnome 2 fork), maybe bringing it up to date (GTK3 Gnome2?)

Mr_ED-horsey · 2011-11-08 18:26:37

Rukiri wrote:

awfulrofl wrote:
Honestly, i find their Linux Mint 12 preview article really good. I played around with Gnome 3 and Unity for a little while, and hated both of them. But the linux mint take on gnome 3 has me intrigued to check out. Congratulations on Mint for taking over the number 1 spot on distrowatch too.
You're not alone, however I do like gnome 3 but prefer Mint's take on the shell. The only thing I hated was hitting the activities button every time I wanted to switch a freaking window... So okay I'm not totally in love with gnome 3 as I was with gnome 2 but mgse seems to fix the window issue and makes it more task centric.
I actually would not be surprised at all if gnome made something similar to gnome 2 but with fusion of gnome 3, that would be sweet.

install the gnome-frippery extension from the AUR (it even works on 3.2 - at least on my machine). MGSE seems to be heavily influenced by that extension. It provides the most Gnome2 like experience on Gnome3 that I've seen. The frippery extension is the only thing that's made Gnome3 usable for me.

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toketin · 2011-11-08 20:51:22

You can use also a dock like Awn to make gnome-shell more elegant than with the bottom panel

cb474 · 2011-11-14 04:48:26

Awebb wrote:

I'm more interested in Mint maintaining Mate (that Gnome 2 fork), maybe bringing it up to date (GTK3 Gnome2?)

Yes, this is also what interests me the most.

viking60 · 2011-12-01 20:38:50

MSGE works well and brings back some flexibility to Gnome3-shell. With it, I don't miss Gnome2 that much anymore.

kahlil88 · 2012-01-02 23:27:28

Is the MGSE extension in AUR supposed to provide options for the Gnome2-style applications and places menu? The only menu option it gives me is one for the bottom panel that doesn't seem to do anything...

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SolarBoyMatt · 2012-01-09 12:40:20

There's a Places entry in the menu, but even then, the menu isn't really Gnome2-style. And when I installed the extensions, I had to restart Gnome-shell to get the menu extension to work properly, the first time.

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