Will firefox-kde-opensuse ever make it to [community]?

trc · 2011-10-18 18:52:39

Was just thinking about this because it is quite an awesome package for us KDE users and is included in other distros officially like Ubuntu and OpenSUSE.

ethail · 2011-10-18 19:20:04

Arch doesn't include non-upstream packages in their official repos. Or said in another way:

Packages that are the same software that another package but have patches will have to remain in the AUR

ewaller · 2011-10-18 19:28:18

You might look at this recently minted thread.

quasifilmie · 2011-11-03 18:48:49

This project is upstream. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=117962. It is better than the opensuse theme.

min · 2011-11-03 20:47:29

Not necesserarily better. The one you linked will still use gtk|xul file chooser, whereas the opensusue one use kde file chooser. And I think opensuse's one play more nicely with qt-curve.

quasifilmie · 2011-11-25 02:31:56

Forgot I posted here. Anyway, with oxygen gtk in conjunction with the addon I posted, I still think it is better

ANOKNUSA · 2011-11-25 16:39:20

quasifilmie wrote:

This project is upstream. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=117962. It is better than the opensuse theme.

"Upstream" doesn't mean "Anywhere other than Arch." If it doesn't come from Mozilla, it can't be considered part of the Firefox upstream content. This is just a user-created theme. If you don't quite follow me, consider this: the theme needs to be updated after each release of Firefox; hence, it's just as far down the development stream from Mozilla as Arch itself, since both the Arch devs and the theme creator must wait until Mozilla makes the source code publicly available to do anything with it.

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quasifilmie · 2011-11-26 05:21:32

ANOKNUSA wrote:

quasifilmie wrote:
This project is upstream. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=117962. It is better than the opensuse theme.
"Upstream" doesn't mean "Anywhere other than Arch." If it doesn't come from Mozilla, it can't be considered part of the Firefox upstream content. This is just a user-created theme. If you don't quite follow me, consider this: the theme needs to be updated after each release of Firefox; hence, it's just as far down the development stream from Mozilla as Arch itself, since both the Arch devs and the theme creator must wait until Mozilla makes the source code publicly available to do anything with it.

I disagree. If Arch packagers of kde were to integrate the opensuse patch and make changes to it that is considered a downstream change to the upstream project. I also believe the same would apply to the link I posted. Therefore the opensuse patch is upstream along with the theme I posted above.

ANOKNUSA · 2011-11-26 05:54:27

Only insofar as you consider Arch to be downstream from SuSE, which it objectively is not. Besides, applying third-party patches to the official repos is both contrary to the Arch Way, and not the prerogative of the Arch devs. This isn't a matter of opinon; you simply seem to have misunderstood the definition of the term "upstream" with regard to Linux development.

quasifilmie · 2011-11-27 04:57:56

ANOKNUSA wrote:

Only insofar as you consider Arch to be downstream from SuSE, which it objectively is not.

Look at it this way. Chakra still incorporates the pacman package manager. To the devs and community of Chakra, this is an upstream project. Chakra is switching to a new package manager. If Arch were to abandon pacman in favor of Chakra's manager to come they would be incorporating a new upstream project. To give Firefox a consistent look with KDE in Chakra, some users depend on a patch from a seperate upstream source (in this case openSuSE) for this. To say the opensuse patch is not upstream is like saying third-party kernel modules are not upstream because they have to for Linus to release the source code before they can update said drivers. If Arch uses them and they are not made by and for Arch they are an upstream source.

ANOKNUSA wrote:

Besides, applying third-party patches to the official repos is both contrary to the Arch Way, and not the prerogative of the Arch devs.

That is why I posted the link to that theme at kde-look since it is more a theme/plugin than a patch.

sl1pkn07 · 2011-11-28 23:17:25

i prefer firefox-kde-opensuse instead a one theme...

SS4 · 2011-11-28 23:34:45

sl1pkn07 wrote:

i prefer firefox-kde-opensuse instead a one theme...

I don't find there's all that much difference except in the compilation time

sl1pkn07 · 2011-11-28 23:37:55

SS4 wrote:

sl1pkn07 wrote:
i prefer firefox-kde-opensuse instead a one theme...
I don't find there's all that much difference except in the compilation time

best integration on kde, no only face feeling

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