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#1 2011-12-13 01:43:56

sporkexec
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[solved] Search down or very small result set?

The forum search is turning up almost nothing for me. For example, searching for "pacman" on all boards yields 7 results, "kernel" gets 9, "PKGBUILD" gets 5. There's nothing older than 9 Dec 2011.
Am I missing something or did the search index get wiped out?

EDIT: Thanks, whoever fixed it.

Last edited by sporkexec (2011-12-14 01:36:28)

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#2 2011-12-13 01:50:54

karol
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Re: [solved] Search down or very small result set?

Yup, your observations are right.
Try using google https://www.google.com/search?q=site:bb … dr:m,sbd:1

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#3 2011-12-13 07:43:56

Harey
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Re: [solved] Search down or very small result set?

sporkexec wrote:

The forum search is turning up almost nothing for me

Me too sad

Did a search with keyword 'suspend' and there was nothing found. I can't believe that tongue

And the timeout of 60 seconds is even more annoying. A button to select all possible forums would be great too since all checkboxes are deativated by default.

I would say the search function is unusable like that.

Harvey

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#4 2011-12-13 09:54:45

karol
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Re: [solved] Search down or very small result set?

Harey wrote:

And the timeout of 60 seconds is even more annoying.

The timeout is 30 seconds for me.
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22739

Harey wrote:

A button to select all possible forums would be great too since all checkboxes are deativated by default.

Below these checkboxes it reads "If no forums are selected, all forums will be searched."

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#5 2011-12-13 11:58:29

Harey
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Re: [solved] Search down or very small result set?

karol wrote:

The timeout is 30 seconds for me.
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22739

The Info says:
At least 60 seconds have to pass between searches. Please wait a while and try searching again.

I did not stop the time though smile

karol wrote:

Below these checkboxes it reads "If no forums are selected, all forums will be searched."

I haven't noticed that. Sorry.
But... Shouldn't the checkboxes be enabled then by default? In the moment they don't reflect the correct initial state. Design would be more intuitive if the user was to deselect some of the boxes to narrow his search.

Harvey


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#6 2011-12-13 15:18:30

karol
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Re: [solved] Search down or very small result set?

Harey wrote:

But... Shouldn't the checkboxes be enabled then by default? In the moment they don't reflect the correct initial state. Design would be more intuitive if the user was to deselect some of the boxes to narrow his search.

IIRC the search interface has been revamped in the recent version of the forum.
You can suggest improvements and fixes to the fluxbb devs: http://fluxbb.org/development/core/timeline.html

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#7 2011-12-14 01:08:29

sporkexec
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Re: [solved] Search down or very small result set?

It's 30 seconds for me as well. I believe it is 60 seconds if you're not logged in.
If you wanted to get fancy it could reduce with post count, eg. 60 seconds / post count.
However, just having sane rate-limiting would be better, eg. limit to 20 searches in 5 minutes (15s per post at maximum capacity). If the user doesn't find something worth stopping for after that many searches, it's probably not legitimate traffic, while the user who needs to try a few variants before finding useful results is unimpeded.

Harey wrote:

But... Shouldn't the checkboxes be enabled then by default?

No. It's right there in plain English, and that behavior introduces a Javascript dependency to uncheck all the others after the first click: Anybody using it is far more likely to want to filter to just a few boards than to show everything except a few boards. Without unchecking them all via Javascript, the user has to do it manually.

For example,
How often do you say: Show me only "Kernel & Hardware" and "Laptop Issues"?
How often do you say: Show me everything except "[testing] Repo Forum" and "Pacman & Package Upgrade Issues"?
And compare how much work it takes to perform those actions when everything is checked initially.

Last edited by sporkexec (2011-12-14 01:10:05)

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#8 2011-12-14 03:49:48

ewaller
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Re: [solved] Search down or very small result set?

I won't tell you what the timeout is for moderators tongue

Regardless, I use Google with a site:bbs.archlinux.org argument.

edit: sorry Karol, You are way ahead of me.

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#9 2011-12-14 08:16:55

Harey
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Re: [solved] Search down or very small result set?

ewaller wrote:

I use Google with a site:bbs.archlinux.org argument.

Sigh. So the search function is not really trustworthy? tongue

I am not a crack concerning ready tailored BBS systems. I understand that you have to take what the system gives. Otherwise I would suggest a button 'Check all' / 'Uncheck all' which would be much more intuitive...
And yes, it's 30 seconds for me as well when I'm logged in. Until now my workflow was to only log in when I really had something to post but not for every quick search I have to do.

Harvey


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#10 2011-12-21 12:01:30

karol
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Re: [solved] Search down or very small result set?

The search seems to have been fixed.

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