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#1 2003-12-02 12:55:24

dp
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From: Zürich, Switzerland
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AltGr lost ... Alt_R is not longer AltGr ...

the key "AltGr" that helps typing more keys on your keyboard (like the at-sign and others i cannot type now because of this) are not do not longer function under X ... (in VC's it works)

the only change i did was installing wdm (removing do not help :-( )

keyboard-part of XFree86Config looks like this:

Section "InputDevice"
  Driver       "Keyboard"
  Identifier   "Keyboard[0]"
  Option       "MapName" "Standard Keyboard [ pc101 ]"
  Option       "Protocol" "Standard"
  Option       "XkbLayout" "de_CH"
  Option       "XkbModel" "pc101"
  Option       "XkbRules" "xfree86"
EndSection

(but it is the same as before, when it worked)

it's really bad not being able to type AT in  email-addresses and using pipe and the other special keys in X (and xterms) ... any suggestions? thanx in advance

EDIT:
xev gives this when AltGr is pressed:

KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x2c00001,
    root 0x48, subw 0x0, time 743008, (-169,343), root:(714,363),
    state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xffea, Alt_R), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 bytes:  ""

KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x2c00001,
    root 0x48, subw 0x0, time 743074, (-169,343), root:(714,363),
    state 0x8, keycode 113 (keysym 0xffea, Alt_R), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 bytes:  ""

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#2 2003-12-02 20:38:00

dp
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Re: AltGr lost ... Alt_R is not longer AltGr ...

after the update of today (bug-buddy-2.4.1.1-1 gail-1.4.1-1 gdm-2.4.4.5-1 gnome-desktop-2.4.1.1-1
         gnome-media-2.4.1.1-1 libgnomeprint-2.4.2-1 libgnomeprintui-2.4.2-1
         xscreensaver-4.14-1 yelp-2.4.2-1) the AltGr came back ... |@#¼½¬¦¢]}]{}·@??¶????øþ[{}??j??ðßæ«»?nµ?·  no idea what happened, but now it's solved --- any ideas?


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#3 2003-12-03 00:32:45

andy
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Re: AltGr lost ... Alt_R is not longer AltGr ...

dp wrote:

it's really bad not being able to type AT in  email-addresses and using pipe and the other special keys in X (and xterms) ... any suggestions?

Get a US keyboard ?!? ;-) ... SCNR, but the US layout is much better in that regard, @ | and  etc are on much more convenient locations than on the German layout (I guess the swiss is similar).

Anyways, but why it worked again ? Restart X ? Log-out log-in ? Reboot ?

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#4 2003-12-03 05:13:59

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Re: AltGr lost ... Alt_R is not longer AltGr ...

My guess is you updated gnome-desktop and it was a problem with the keybindings.  IIRC, AltGr has to be handled by the WM.


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#5 2003-12-04 23:11:58

dp
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Re: AltGr lost ... Alt_R is not longer AltGr ...

andy wrote:

Get a US keyboard ?!? ;-) ... SCNR, but the US layout is much better in that regard, @ | and  etc are on much more convenient locations than on the German layout (I guess the swiss is similar).

.... yes, at the university we have us-keyboards in the informatics-rooms; but then i'm not able to type keys used by us swiss (öäüéàè) easily

andy wrote:

Anyways, but why it worked again ? Restart X ? Log-out log-in ? Reboot ?

restart X: well about 10 times (while playing with the config and trying to tell the X that Alt_R is not Alt, it's AltGr)

login/-out: you mean of what? (in the VC, the keyboard works nicely, only X was the problem)

Reboot: reboot to solve problem in X? i think this is needed only on "primitive" platforms ... wink

i would with pleasure try to use another layout under x if someone knows a easy way to type one of these keys öäüéàè (.. without remapping the layout :-) )

Xentac wrote:

My guess is you updated gnome-desktop and it was a problem with the keybindings. IIRC, AltGr has to be handled by the WM.

very possibly ... this is the only change that gave me AltGr back ...

thanx for the comments


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