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#1 2012-01-23 08:34:20

Zulfikar
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List of base packages

Can anyone provide or know the list of the packages that pacman would upgrade after a new installation, I need it because the system I shall be installing it does  not have a net connection hence I would be downloading the packages manually.

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#2 2012-01-23 08:38:02

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#3 2012-01-23 10:02:49

Zulfikar
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Re: List of base packages


I need the list of packages that will be updated after a fresh install.

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#4 2012-01-23 10:17:02

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Re: List of base packages

That obviously depends which packages you "freshly installed".

'pacman -Syup' is what you need.
Updating Arch w/o a network conection is a PITA, because first you have to update the sync DBs and then compare them with the local DB. There are some threads about moving the DBs around to a computer that has a connection and back.

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#5 2012-01-23 10:19:31

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Re: List of base packages

karol wrote:

That obviously depends which packages you "freshly installed".

'pacman -Syup' is what you need.
Updating Arch w/o a network conection is a PITA, because first you have to update the sync DBs and then compare them with the local DB. There are some threads about moving the DBs around to a computer that has a connection and back.


"freshly installed" the fresh installation of Arch.

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#6 2012-01-23 10:22:41

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Zulfikar, there's no such thing as a default installation, I'd lke to remind you that *you* pick packages you want to install.
If you're using the core installation image (and not netinstall, because you have no network connection) pretty much every package will have to be updated.

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#7 2012-01-23 10:25:00

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Re: List of base packages

karol wrote:

Zulfikar, there's no such thing as a default installation, I'd lke to remind you that *you* pick packages you want to install.
If you're using the core installation image (and not netinstall, because you have no network connection) pretty much every package will have to be updated.


I pick all the packages during install.

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#8 2012-01-23 10:27:46

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Re: List of base packages

No net connection + Arch Linux = perpetual pain in the balls.  My advice is not to try this.  Use a distro that has a fixed upgrade cycle if you must.


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#9 2012-01-23 10:32:33

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Re: List of base packages

graysky wrote:

No net connection + Arch Linux = perpetual pain in the balls.  My advice is not to try this.  Use a distro that has a fixed upgrade cycle if you must.

great sad

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#10 2012-01-23 10:36:06

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karol wrote:

...Updating Arch w/o a network conection is a PITA...

Or a PPITB if your read my post smile

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#11 2012-01-23 10:48:58

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Re: List of base packages

I think i will install Arch once again on my home machine and update it and take the /var/cache/ folder and on a CD and then mount it on the other system and update.

One question , the 1st time i installed arch at home and tried to make a backup of  /var/cache to a NTFS drive it gave me operation not permitted , so remounted with rw but still no use.

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#12 2012-01-23 10:58:20

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Odds are your ntfs partition is not mounted correctly.  If you copy as root it will work.  You need to use umask to get it to work with your user.

Read Karol's post again... You not only need the pkg cache dir, you also need the sync dbs from the system too.


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#13 2012-01-23 11:00:39

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Re: List of base packages

graysky wrote:

Odds are your ntfs partition is not mounted correctly.  If you copy as root it will work.  You need to use umask to get it to work with your user.

Read Karol's post again... You not only need the pkg cache dir, you also need the sync dbs from the system too.

copy.

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#14 2012-01-23 11:05:40

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Re: List of base packages

graysky is right.I have a slow internet plan and so whenever I wanted to reinstall, I have  copied /var/cache/pacman  to another partition(NTFS) as root and it has always worked great! So many times....

Edit:
I 'm not sure about sync dbs , I have never done that.

Last edited by hadrons123 (2012-01-23 11:08:21)


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#15 2012-01-23 11:10:11

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Re: List of base packages

hadrons123 wrote:

graysky is right.I have a slow internet plan and so whenever I wanted to reinstall, I have  copied /var/cache/pacman  to another partition(NTFS) as root and it has always worked great! So many times....

Edit:
I 'm not sure about sync dbs , I have never done that.


I will try the installation again today on my main system .

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#16 2012-01-23 12:09:19

Zulfikar
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Re: List of base packages

I am worried about my Mepis as the last time I had installed Arch my other OS didn't show up in the boot menu, I know I can configure it through grub.

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