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#1 2011-01-29 15:10:04

whatshisname
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Registered: 2010-04-24
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[Solution] xfce 4.8:Lost titlebar.No mouse pointer.

Thought I'd post this because it just happened to me and couldn't find reference to it   in the forums under "lost titlebar". 

After the recent upgrade to xfce 4.8, I had the following 5 issues on my Dell D600 Latitude laptop:

1) First thing, I couldn't see my mouse pointer upon booting but if I moved it around on the desktop, I could see the icons lighting up when I supposedly went over them.  Once I double-clicked on "File System", a window would open and I could see the old X terminal cursor.

2) I noticed there was no titlebar to what windows did open.

4) Another symptom was the "Window Manager" icon in "Settings" wouldn't open, which points to the problem -- the window manager isn't working. 

5) Finally, I could open a terminal window but couldn't get the cursor to take a command.  It just sat there.

The answer to all of this is the window manager isn't working which was kind of indicated by #4.

The solution is to open a terminal window, if you can, and type "xfwm4". 

If your terminal isn't responding, as was my case, navigate to "/usr/bin" in your filemanger and double-click "xfwm4".

Hope this helps someone.

Last edited by whatshisname (2011-01-29 15:12:00)

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#2 2011-01-29 17:43:02

Behemot
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Registered: 2010-12-10
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Re: [Solution] xfce 4.8:Lost titlebar.No mouse pointer.

I encountered this also. However I'd be more glad to solve the source of the problem - for me it is when logging off takes longer time (due to some process which do not respond to sigterm) so X get killed without saving session and opened programs - xfwm4 is amongs them - do not start next time. Also even when all programs close all right, still I am not able to get last opened apps to be opened next time. Currently dealing with this in this thread https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=112384

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#3 2011-01-29 18:01:13

whatshisname
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Registered: 2010-04-24
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Re: [Solution] xfce 4.8:Lost titlebar.No mouse pointer.

Behemot wrote:

I encountered this also. However I'd be more glad to solve the source of the problem - for me it is when logging off takes longer time (due to some process which do not respond to sigterm) so X get killed without saving session and opened programs - xfwm4 is amongs them - do not start next time. Also even when all programs close all right, still I am not able to get last opened apps to be opened next time. Currently dealing with this in this thread https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=112384

Good point about the problem stemming from X getting killed without saving session.  That might have been what happened to me.  This only happened on my laptop (my desktop runs same version of Arch and Xfce) which doesn't shut down properly when the battery runs out.

So that might have been what happened to me and I may see this again. (Edit: Yes.  It happens everytime the laptop doesn't shut down properly. I now have a link to xfwm4 on my desktop to get everything working quickly until I find a solution.)

I'll keep digging.

Last edited by whatshisname (2011-01-29 19:07:59)

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#4 2011-04-09 21:30:55

hadrurus
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Registered: 2009-08-22
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Re: [Solution] xfce 4.8:Lost titlebar.No mouse pointer.

Hey

Same here, long logout, no window manager after relog. Also running xfwm4 worked, for the future: to make sure that window manager always run you can just add xfwm4 in "Session and Startup" config (available from Settings menu, or Setting manager). Yea, I know, it's not a solution, but a workaroun not to be forced to click it after login.

$ xfwm4
xfwm4-Message: To replace the current window manager, try "--replace"
(xfwm4:2672): xfwm4-WARNING **: Another Window Manager is already running

So there should be no problem with mulitiple wm's running.

cheers


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#5 2011-05-18 20:54:56

apriebe
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Registered: 2011-05-18
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Re: [Solution] xfce 4.8:Lost titlebar.No mouse pointer.

I had a problem today very similar to this today after installing Dropbox. In my case, nautilus was somehow conflicting with xfwm4, and after removing the nautilus package from my system, everything has gone back to normal behavior.

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#6 2012-01-23 15:29:08

Calmatory
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Registered: 2008-05-25
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Re: [Solution] xfce 4.8:Lost titlebar.No mouse pointer.

I am not sure if relevant or anything but.. Reporting in. Happened to me twice today. I guess there are no applicable permanent fixes for this issue in sight?

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#7 2012-03-07 18:59:52

algenon
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Registered: 2011-12-14
Posts: 6

Re: [Solution] xfce 4.8:Lost titlebar.No mouse pointer.

Thanks Whatshisname for your work around.  Did the trick for me.  My symptoms were as you described, but only for me.  Other users of this computer are unaffected, so I guess it is something which is borked in my user settings - I don't know which one though.

Regards,

Algenoncat

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