The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

sleepforlife · 2012-01-26 07:02:51

fixed all my Gnome3 issues
toshiba satellite a350-22z
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650

zorkfandm · 2012-01-26 13:07:08

Any news on xv video crashing X11? Is that still an issue?

ratcheer · 2012-01-26 13:22:31

ico wrote:

well, let's do one thing.
Spam their "Catalyst Crew Feedback Form" with bugs and issues...
http://www.amdsurveys.com/se.ashx?s=5A1E27D27E29B0E3
There's nothing else we can do.

I don't feel like that's a good idea. Did you know that ATI had large layoffs just a couple of months ago? I am just hoping they will be able to continue to support their driver for Linux. I'm pretty sure it doesn't generate much revenue for them.

Tim

achilleas.k · 2012-01-26 13:23:32

Something tells me my next laptop will have Intel graphics ...

Vi0L0 · 2012-01-26 13:32:14

sleepforlife wrote:

fixed all my Gnome3 issues
toshiba satellite a350-22z
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650

General speed is good? Aspecially windows movement? (it's very lagging for me)
So maybe they are doing something with G3 support...

zorkfandm wrote:

Any news on xv video crashing X11? Is that still an issue?

I asure you that if it would be fixed i would mention about such important fact
Actually xv bug was the reason for which i wrote:
"I believe that using [xorg110] is still the best (and only?) way with latest catalysts..."

ChemBro · 2012-01-26 13:44:23

achilleas.k wrote:

Something tells me my next laptop will have Intel graphics ...

Did you ever had a system with intel graphics? Just a tip: I wouldn't recommend it.

achilleas.k · 2012-01-26 13:47:54

ChemBro wrote:

Did you ever had a system with intel graphics? Just a tip: I wouldn't recommend it.

No, but everyone I know who runs Linux on one has had zero problems. This is my second laptop with ATI graphics and it's been a mess both times. nVidia seems to be slightly better, at least for some people, but Intel, although not amazing in terms of performance, gets the best compatibility and very importantly, very good power usage.

Naturally, this is all from personal observation and experience. I am open to corrections and actual hard data.

Gooler · 2012-01-26 18:02:51

Has anyone else noticed a HUGE memory leak with latest catalysts 12.1-1, xorg-server 1.11.3-1 and kernel 3.2.1?

At boot time X process uses about 20 ~ 30 MB. Two to three hours later its using a full 1GB of RAM and I'm just browsing and using Eclipse + an Android Virtual Device >_<

sleepforlife · 2012-01-26 18:24:49

Vi0L0 wrote:

sleepforlife wrote:
fixed all my Gnome3 issues
toshiba satellite a350-22z
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650
General speed is good? Aspecially windows movement? (it's very lagging for me)
So maybe they are doing something with G3 support...

no lag. no bug. everything works fine.
xorg1.11.3-1
kernel3.2.1
catalyst12.1
For me it was a surprise
is not convincing at all
and
Thank you for your all upload. @Vi0L0

Last edited by sleepforlife (2012-01-26 18:29:29)

mundigranja · 2012-01-26 18:56:53

In my case I found greater warming than catalyst 11.12. Has anyone noticed that?

Kernel 3.2.1 and 3.2.2 (testing)
catalyst-hook 12.1-1
xorg 1.11.3-1

Last edited by mundigranja (2012-01-26 18:58:25)

szebenyib · 2012-01-26 19:56:55

YESSS it is finally working now with GNOME3. There is room for improvement, but it can be used now. Sometimes a bit slow and laggy, but it is USABLE.
Yesyesyesyes :):)

ico · 2012-01-26 20:46:54

ratcheer wrote:

ico wrote:
well, let's do one thing.
Spam their "Catalyst Crew Feedback Form" with bugs and issues...
http://www.amdsurveys.com/se.ashx?s=5A1E27D27E29B0E3
There's nothing else we can do.
I don't feel like that's a good idea. Did you know that ATI had large layoffs just a couple of months ago? I am just hoping they will be able to continue to support their driver for Linux. I'm pretty sure it doesn't generate much revenue for them.
Tim

yes, I'm very well aware of that. But 90% of them were marketing guys and deadwood. Some high profile VPs as well.

But the point is, that form is the way everyone reports their bugs to the driver devs. And they do take notice of the bugs and reports as far as Windows is concerned.

On many occasions I've tried tweeting to CatalystCreator as well. https://www.twitter.com/#!/CatalystCreator I don't know whether he reads or not.

tbh, I seriously think AMD should drop the monthly release cycle for Linux. There is no point of releasing a crappy driver every month. Release a working and stable driver once in 3 months keeping pace with X.org. That's all we need.

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cdprincipe · 2012-01-26 22:56:04

sleepforlife wrote:

Vi0L0 wrote:
sleepforlife wrote:
fixed all my Gnome3 issues
toshiba satellite a350-22z
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650
General speed is good? Aspecially windows movement? (it's very lagging for me)
So maybe they are doing something with G3 support...
no lag. no bug. everything works fine.
xorg1.11.3-1
kernel3.2.1
catalyst12.1
For me it was a surprise
is not convincing at all
and
Thank you for your all upload. @Vi0L0

Also videoplayback on xv output?

LLStarks · 2012-01-26 23:34:22

Anyone know the current status of PowerXpress support on the following setups for both the -radeon and fglrx drivers?

Intel+Radeon+Mux
Intel+Radeon+Muxless
AMD+Radeon+Mux
AMD+Radeon+Muxless

PreparationH67 · 2012-01-27 00:48:21

So I havn't tried 12.1 yet, but has anyone gotten suspend working right with catalyst? I know that it works on the open source driver since someone else I know has a machine with the C-50 APU and uses the opensource driver on it, but he has also had the same problem with the catalyst driver.

I have vga=0 and nomodeset as kernel options, I've tried disabling acpi calls using aticonfig, and several other tricks I've found on the forums in various combinations, but I can never get it to wake up.

Asus 1215b with the e-350 APU
XFCE with the power manager
Latest kernel and now catalyist 12.1

And I have never found an explicet error about it in the logs, but I may jsut be looking for the wrong thing.

xgt001 · 2012-01-27 14:14:14

turning off clutter vblank, improves the speed dramatically, very smooth performance here

Vi0L0 · 2012-01-27 16:39:52

xgt001 wrote:

turning off clutter vblank, improves the speed dramatically, very smooth performance here

confirmed! It was never before working for me, now it's very nice.

Let me just quote Gillian00 on how to make it:

Gillian00 wrote:

Hello,
You maybe all know the trick but here it is:
editing the .profile file in home folder with
export CLUTTER_VBLANK=none
helped me quite a lot with gnome 3.2 and catalyst 11.12 !

you can also use /etc/profile file and place export line there.

Updating wiki with this info now :>

szebenyib · 2012-01-27 19:35:31

Is it the same as accmd option: tear free desktop? I mean the vblank_clutter option.

Jatoskep · 2012-01-28 16:09:20

I seem to be completely unable to get video playback to work smoothly with my Radeon 6950. With the radeon open source driver I was getting very frequent hangs in even 720p playback with mplayer using xv. After a lot of tweaking and trying different things I had absolutely no luck, so I decided to give the catalyst driver a shot. I downloaded the latest catalyst, catalyst-utils and xvba-video contained in the [catalyst] repository mentioned on the wiki page, and after getting that set up properly tried using mplayer-vaapi with similar results. I also noticed that if using Smplayer I would get horrible artifacts and tearing all over the screen whenever I'd try to use the bottom controls while in full screen. If anyone has been able to successfully get video playback working well with this card or similar are there any suggestions you could offer me?

Vi0L0 · 2012-01-28 22:04:04

Direct Rendering in KDE 4.8
seems to work much better with catalyst. I'm testing it on [xorg110].
Before: when closing window with OpenGL/VAAPI container desktop was filled with some trashes and somehow it was "locking" whole desktop so i needed to click on something to refresh desktop
Now: when closing window with OpenGL/VAAPI container i can see some trashes for miliseconds and it's refreshing desktop on it's own.

Actually it's usable now, much faster and responsive than without direct rendering. There's just one bad thing: video is flickering no matter if "Tear Free" is enabled or disabled.

To enable edit profile file and add into it this line:

export KWIN_DIRECT_GL=1

ratcheer · 2012-01-29 00:52:52

CLUTTER_VBLANK makes no difference for me, neither on Arch with OpenBox nor Ubuntu with Gnome 3 gnome-shell. It doesn't hurt anything, but it isn't helping anything, either.

Tim

Last edited by ratcheer (2012-01-29 13:00:03)

szebenyib · 2012-01-29 07:36:25

For me it definitely helped with speed in G3

umaxtu · 2012-01-29 16:50:18

I'm having problems enabling dynpm with the OSS drivers. /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method = dynpm but according to /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/radeon_pm_info its not doing a thing. KMS is enabled and the radeon module is in my initramfs so KMS starts early.

Any Ideas?

snack · 2012-01-29 17:14:03

umaxtu wrote:

I'm having problems enabling dynpm with the OSS drivers. /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method = dynpm but according to /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/radeon_pm_info its not doing a thing. KMS is enabled and the radeon module is in my initramfs so KMS starts early.
Any Ideas?

I think you should post your open driver issue in the open driver thread:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79509

It is much likely that someone will have an answer for your question there rather than in the Catalyst thread...

Last edited by snack (2012-01-29 17:14:29)

umaxtu · 2012-01-29 17:14:29

snack wrote:

umaxtu wrote:
I'm having problems enabling dynpm with the OSS drivers. /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method = dynpm but according to /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/radeon_pm_info its not doing a thing. KMS is enabled and the radeon module is in my initramfs so KMS starts early.
Any Ideas?
I think you should post your open driver issue to the open driver thread:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79509
It is much likely that someone will have an answer for your question there rather than in the Catalyst thread...

Oh sorry.

Arch Linux

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