[SOLVED] GNOME 3.2 and Nautilus are Case Sensitive. What do?

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-20 18:54:26

I just migrated from KDE 4.8 to GNOME 3.2 since KDE 4.8 was giving me a LOT of trouble with Firefox (mostly with homebrewed browser scripts for Firefox, but that's my fault. I pacman -Syu'd blindly).

Anyway, when I use GNOME Shell, all my applications are sorted by case. For example, I scroll down, and I gedit all the way at the bottom, but I see nothing between the F apps and the H apps.

In Nautilus it's even more confusing. For example, I have my xdg-user-dirs (such as Desktop, Music, etc.) but my ~/builds directory is all the way down. The same goes for ~/scripts and ~/r9k.

I've checked /etc/profile and /etc/rc.conf, but I can't find anything that would give a clue as to WHY this is happening. Here's a wgetpaste from my /etc/profile and /etc/rc.conf if that helps.

http://paste.pocoo.org/show/554087/ <- /etc/rc.conf
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/554088/ <- /etc/profile

Last edited by shaunsingh14 (2012-02-23 18:08:01)

don_crissti · 2012-02-20 20:46:12

Open a terminal and run:

env LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8 nautilus --no-desktop

see if Nautilus sorts stuff case-insensitive.
If it does, then some script (e.g. ~.dmrc) has set your LC_COLLATE to "C" or "POSIX".

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 07:12:16

nope that doesn't work. files still remain case sensitive.

ngoonee · 2012-02-22 07:40:03

What's your current value of LC_COLLATE?

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 07:45:39

how do i check that again? forgive me, but i'm somewhat groggy and i can't recall how i check lc_collate again.

Gcool · 2012-02-22 07:54:51

locale | grep LC_COLLATE

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 07:56:47

LC_COLLATE="C"

apparently, this is what i have.

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 08:05:14

don_crissti wrote:

Open a terminal and run:
env LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8 nautilus --no-desktop
see if Nautilus sorts stuff case-insensitive.
If it does, then some script (e.g. ~.dmrc) has set your LC_COLLATE to "C" or "POSIX".

shaun@the-enforcer:~$ env LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8 nautilus --no-desktop

(nautilus:15115): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.

shaun@the-enforcer:~$

i reran the command, and i got this.
how could i have not remembered to post the error message?
*harakiri*

lucke · 2012-02-22 08:19:37

You should uncomment your preferred locale in /etc/locale.gen, put it in rc.conf and run locale-gen.

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 17:07:31

lucke wrote:

You should uncomment your preferred locale in /etc/locale.gen, put it in rc.conf and run locale-gen.

this piece of news on the arch home page says otherwise
http://www.archlinux.org/news/initscrip … -required/

Last edited by shaunsingh14 (2012-02-22 17:07:49)

karol · 2012-02-22 17:10:19

shaunsingh14 wrote:

lucke wrote:
You should uncomment your preferred locale in /etc/locale.gen, put it in rc.conf and run locale-gen.
this piece of news on the arch home page says otherwise
http://www.archlinux.org/news/initscrip … -required/

What shell are you using?
lucke basically summarized the instructions from the Beginners' Guide.

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 17:16:50

karol wrote:

shaunsingh14 wrote:
lucke wrote:
You should uncomment your preferred locale in /etc/locale.gen, put it in rc.conf and run locale-gen.
this piece of news on the arch home page says otherwise
http://www.archlinux.org/news/initscrip … -required/
What shell are you using?
lucke basically summarized the instructions from the Beginners' Guide.

Bash

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 17:17:46

Even when I added "en-US.UTF-8" to /etc/rc.conf, locale | grep LC_COLLATE still gives the same output: "C"

karol · 2012-02-22 17:19:31

I'm using bash too and this shell can source rc.conf just fine, it's the default shell on Arch.

We add support for /etc/locale.conf. The settings in this file takes precedence over /etc/rc.conf, and those who use shells that cannot source /etc/rc.conf are required to move to this new format.

It doesn't change anything for you and me (apart from that one-time manual intervention). You still can follow the Beginners' Guide on how to set up your locale.

Edit:

shaunsingh14 wrote:

Even when I added "en-US.UTF-8" to /etc/rc.conf, locale | grep LC_COLLATE still gives the same output: "C"

rc.conf is sourced at boot.
Please follow lucke's advice, reboot and post the output of 'locale' and 'locale -a'.

Last edited by karol (2012-02-22 17:20:52)

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 17:24:57

locale returns this:

LANG=C
LC_CTYPE="C"
LC_NUMERIC="C"
LC_TIME="C"
LC_COLLATE="C"
LC_MONETARY="C"
LC_MESSAGES="C"
LC_PAPER="C"
LC_NAME="C"
LC_ADDRESS="C"
LC_TELEPHONE="C"
LC_MEASUREMENT="C"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="C"
LC_ALL=

locale -a returns this:

C
POSIX
en_US
en_US.iso88591
en_US.utf8

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 17:36:28

am i missing something here?

>bash able to source rc.conf
>followed lucke's instructions
>still gives same output
>default locale is still c
>mfw

karol · 2012-02-22 17:38:58

Post your rc.conf please.
Are you exporting your locale settings somewhere, like in your .bashrc?
I have

export LC_MESSAGES="C"
export LC_COLLATE="C"

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 17:48:34

here's a wgetpaste of my rc.conf file: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/555117/

and here's a wgetpaste of my ~/.bashrc: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/555118/

karol · 2012-02-22 17:50:40

LOCALE="en_US" doesn't seem to be a valid choice.

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 17:57:18

let me try en_US.UTF-8

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-22 18:02:06

nope, locale is still c

lucke · 2012-02-22 19:44:05

What does

LANG="en_US.UTF-8" locale

return?

Last edited by lucke (2012-02-22 19:44:38)

shaunsingh14 · 2012-02-23 18:07:32

no worries now. had to reinstall arch linux because my asshat cousin decided to erase /etc/rc.conf and that messed up my entire system.

during installation, i uncommented en_US.UTF-8 and placed that in /etc/rc.conf. now the default locale is en_US.UTF-8 for everything. now nautilus isn't case sensitive anymore.

rather queer, this situation.

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