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sysboy

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KDE packages

Ok so there is a thread right under this by myself to so I appologize to admins for making so many threads .. but  ... this thread is a little different ..

I have install KDE 3.4.2 and it runs .. but -- there arnt ANY packages installed for it -- and Im not sure how to get them ( I know its through pacman but not sure what the name of the package group is ) .. I dont even have shell or konqueror so its useless right now... can anyone help out ?

Snowman

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From: Montreal, Canada

Registered: 2004-08-20

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Re: KDE packages

konqueror is part of kdebase, so if you did pacman -S kde it should be there.  Does /opt/kde/bin/konqueror exist? If yes, it could be a path problem.  What does:
echo $PATH
gives you?

sysboy

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Re: KDE packages

ok konqueror does exist -- and when I enter $PATH I get

/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/kde/bin:/opt/mozilla/
bin:/opt/qt/bin:/opt/xfce4/bin

-sysboy

colnago

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From: Victoria, BC

Registered: 2004-03-25

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Re: KDE packages

Perhaps an old, incompatible, ~/.kde directory.  Try renaming it and deleting everything in /tmp/ and /var/tmp/ and see.  I am assuming it is the menus that you are talking about, the apps are all there. 

Running as root scares me, so I have to go.

sysboy

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Re: KDE packages

ok I have cleared out the tmp directories -- I did pacman -R kde --- then pacman -S kde

now its install ... is there anything I must configure before entering #startkde ???

ralvy

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From: Santa Monica, California

Registered: 2004-12-06

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Re: KDE packages

Hmmm...I have KDE 3.4.1 here and pacman says I'm current. How do I get Arch KDE 3.4.2 packages?

sysboy

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Re: KDE packages

"testing"

/etc/pacman.conf

Snowman

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Re: KDE packages

is there anything I must configure before entering #startkde ???

Are you trying to start kde with startkde?

When you boot the system, you should get a login prompt (I assume that you haven't modified /etc/inittab). Login as a regular user (admin).
Make sure your .xinitrc contains

#!/bin/sh
#
# ~/.xinitrc
#
# Executed by startx (run your window manager from here)
#
exec startkde

Type:
startx
KDE should (hopefully) start.

ralvy

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Re: KDE packages

"testing"

/etc/pacman.conf

Well, when I change

#[testing]
#Server = ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/testing/os/i686

to

#[testing]
Server = ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/testing/os/i686

I get this for that specific line:

[root@tux ralvy]# pacman -Syu
config: line 35: syntax error

sysboy

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Re: KDE packages

yea i use startx but startkde also works .. and I have added exec startkde to that file

sysboy

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Re: KDE packages

ok sorry  for the double post -- I ran KDE and got into a shell and from there I can open programs .. but .. nothing shows up in the menu ???

Snowman

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From: Montreal, Canada

Registered: 2004-08-20

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Re: KDE packages

ralvy: You need to uncomment the [testing], like:
[testing]
Server = ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/testing/os/i686

sysboy: So kde starts then... There should be a start bar and a menu button. Can you start apps from the menu?

Snowman

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From: Montreal, Canada

Registered: 2004-08-20

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Re: KDE packages

Try deleting ~/.kde and ~/.kderc
then restart kde

sysboy

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Re: KDE packages

i deleted .kde but .kderc isnt there ... and there still isnt anything in the menu

ralvy

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From: Santa Monica, California

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Re: KDE packages

ralvy: You need to uncomment the [testing], like:
[testing]
Server = ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/testing/os/i686

Yep. That's it. Thanks.

colnago

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From: Victoria, BC

Registered: 2004-03-25

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Re: KDE packages

sysboy, .kderc should be created for you the first time you log into kde (like it did with the .kde dir).   .kderc just has some font and background colour info in it.

The menus will come back, we just have to figure out what the problem is.  It is something like a stray dir or config setting that is screwing it all up.  Maybe some permissions problem.

I know kde tries to grab directories from other apps too (like gnome). 

If I were you, I would create a temp dir and move a bunch of config stuff into it and see if your problem goes away.  If it does not, you have not needlessly killed the config settings.  For starters, I would move .local .config .kde .kderc .qt out of the way and then logout and login again.  You should get the kde settings wizard on login.  If you don't get that, then maybe there are deper troubles.

You could also log in as root and temporarily create a new user.  Then logout and log in as the new user, the menus should be there for that user for sure.  If not, then you know it is a problem in /opt/kde or /etc/ or somewhere, and not in you local user settings.

Good luck.