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#1 2012-02-23 06:40:28

AKL
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Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

Hi,

http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012 … linux.html

How long until someone cuts Flash out of Chrome and provides the PPAPI for the other browsers? Or better yet, how long until this awful Flash will be a thing of the past and will be replaced by open concepts like HTML5.

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#2 2012-02-23 12:40:14

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

"Adobe will continue to provide security updates to non-Pepper distributions of Flash Player 11.2 on Linux for five years from its release."
Seems ok to me. Hopefully more sites have been moved over to HTML5 by that time.

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#3 2012-02-23 16:13:33

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

I think it's really a shame. Not because i think flash is a grat technology, but a web "standard". For new and non-pro linux users, flash is very important. So is for ads companies. Lots of web content is based on flash, and change that to HTML 5 costs money. If flash on linux is poorly supported, it could cause those new and non-pro linux users change their operating systems, and so the companies...
Just my thoughts...

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#4 2012-02-23 16:46:48

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

So, nothing changes: Flash on Linux is like the child nobody wanted. I hope they foss it up for adoption, though.

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#5 2012-02-23 16:49:55

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

Hyugga wrote:

I think it's really a shame. Not because i think flash is a grat technology, but a web "standard". For new and non-pro linux users, flash is very important. So is for ads companies. Lots of web content is based on flash, and change that to HTML 5 costs money. If flash on linux is poorly supported, it could cause those new and non-pro linux users change their operating systems, and so the companies...
Just my thoughts...

No. Companies don't need to change OS for this. They can always use Google Chrome (for Linux). However why should they discontinue providing a standalone plugin. They can provide a standalone plugin which any PPAPI implementing web browser can use (in the future if firefox or webkit based ones support the API). Why restrict it to chrome?

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#6 2012-02-23 17:21:12

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

This is actually good news, i think.

Adobe already said that there wont be any updates for mobile devices. Same thing for OSX. Now Linux. Its obious - Flash is dying.


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#7 2012-02-23 17:43:06

Hyugga
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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

No. Companies don't need to change OS for this. They can always use Google Chrome (for Linux). However why should they discontinue providing a standalone plugin. They can provide a standalone plugin which any PPAPI implementing web browser can use (in the future if firefox or webkit based ones support the API). Why restrict it to chrome?

You're right, but i was thinking if half+ of the web is based on flash, there will be tons of linux users (like me) that couldn't see that half+ of the web content or doesn't want to chage their web browser. If linux is a poorly supported flash platform, why invest money on make linux friendly web apps and games?

Besides Mozilla said that they're not interested in support PPAPI right now...

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#8 2012-02-23 18:36:13

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

There is nothing wrong with this; as already pointed out, Flash is dead outside Windows. I don't think it would survive five more years.

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#9 2012-02-23 19:18:19

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

That's like saying fish is dead outside the ocean, GERGE.

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#10 2012-02-23 19:26:44

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

There is something called mudskipper. A very interesting creature. Awesomely interesting. Check it.

That said; considering how big an ecosystem Apple has and how much designing is done on Apples, this is not really bad news. It might be bad, alright, but won't have big effects. The Flash we have will probably be good for 3-4 years easily, and who can claim that Flash will still be going strong years later.

Anyway; mudskipper, I was saying. Mightily curious creature.

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#11 2012-02-23 23:13:59

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

But the flash (the news released) are for Google-chrome only rigth?

this make a "force" posibility to include google-chrome in [community]?

the only thing that really angry me is; why include in main line the 64-bit later they drop the support for news releases


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#12 2012-02-23 23:40:20

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

Good news for gnash perhaps... people might actually start using it and drive up some interest on improving it further.

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#13 2012-02-24 04:16:56

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

Jristz wrote:

But the flash (the news released) are for Google-chrome only rigth?

this make a "force" posibility to include google-chrome in [community]?

the only thing that really angry me is; why include in main line the 64-bit later they drop the support for news releases

I'm sure flash will be available for chromium at least, in the aur. Similar to the libpdf packages for chromium (pkgbuild that downloads chrome and extracts the plugin)

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#14 2012-02-24 11:42:41

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

Good riddance. I hope the door hits it on the way out.


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#15 2012-02-24 12:10:29

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

The only flash I miss is Gordon, tongue


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#16 2012-02-24 12:54:09

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

Awebb wrote:

That's like saying fish is dead outside the ocean, GERGE.

Eh, I think that becomes less true every year.

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#17 2012-02-25 04:28:24

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

There's a few interesting things that come to mind with this and one of them is that Google has also managed to corner the NetFlix on Linux market for now. Google is clearly implementing all of the DRM code necessary for HTML5 and Flash, and they're isolating development to their platform. They do have a tendency to let people use things royalty free, but they're not always keen on relinquishing their patents. It will be interesting to see if they patent their work on the DRM code and just let it sit idly by.

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#18 2012-02-25 21:59:07

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

skottish wrote:

There's a few interesting things that come to mind with this and one of them is that Google has also managed to corner the NetFlix on Linux market for now. Google is clearly implementing all of the DRM code necessary for HTML5 and Flash, and they're isolating development to their platform. They do have a tendency to let people use things royalty free, but they're not always keen on relinquishing their patents. It will be interesting to see if they patent their work on the DRM code and just let it sit idly by.

..Netflix on Chrome for GNU+Linux... Link?

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#19 2012-02-25 22:22:09

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

Misfit138 wrote:

..Netflix on Chrome for GNU+Linux... Link?

This applies to ChromeOS only.  The plugin is crippled to prevent it from working with other Linux distributions running just the Chrome browser.  https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta … h?hl=en-US

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#20 2012-02-25 22:22:58

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

Misfit138 wrote:

..Netflix on Chrome for GNU+Linux... Link?

He didn't say GNU+Linux. He said Linux. And well, Android does use Linux.

Edit: ChromeOS does Netflix too? Whoa. That I didn't know.

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#21 2012-02-25 22:31:18

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

That's what I meant by "... and they're isolating development to their platform". I could have been more clear about that.

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#22 2012-02-26 18:26:07

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

skottish wrote:

That's what I meant by "... and they're isolating development to their platform". I could have been more clear about that.

Oh well. One can dream.

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#23 2012-02-26 21:11:53

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

At first I was like "Oh my gaaaaaawd!". But then I serious'd.

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#24 2012-02-28 01:00:32

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

Awesome. I don't have to install flashblock on my Linux boxes anymore smile


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#25 2012-02-28 21:43:36

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Re: Adobe drops Flash for Linux, except Chrome

this makes me think that adobe and google have some shady agreements to kill firefox.


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