HTML5 true fullscreen

quasifilmie · 2012-03-17 05:26:29

It seems that the only two browsers that support true html5 fullscreen are firefox and chromium that I have tested. Are there other browsers that support this? Anyone know why this has not happened in other browsers. In other you have to press fullscreen and then f11. Things like this are why I understand that web developers aren't adopting html5.

Last edited by quasifilmie (2012-03-17 05:26:42)

Blµb · 2012-03-17 08:13:25

What does fullscreen have to do with adopting HTML5{, in general}? Are you talking about fullscreen for videos etc? (youtube and the likes?)

Evanlec · 2012-03-17 10:00:13

Yea I'm not sure what you mean by html5 fullscreen?
Firefox has had the F11 full-screen functionality for years now...I'm confused

Awebb · 2012-03-17 10:07:53

html5 has fullscreen capability, creating an overlay for videos for example, without turning the browser itself fullscreen, very much like when you hit the fullscreen button on youtube.

I'm glad that this is not a common feature, it would annoy the hell out of me to see my browser go fullscreen whenever it wants.

Evanlec · 2012-03-17 11:26:25

Oh, that is neat then I think. Of course it would be like pop-ups, fullscreen mode only allowed if user intentionally asks (clicks) for it

Awebb · 2012-03-17 12:07:47

If the user has to click a button, he can also F11 to get the fullscreen. I never understood why software inside a sandbox should be allowed to run anything in fullscreen. I could easily write a transparent overlay, that makes you buy dirty videos, while you thought you clicked an icon on your desktop.

litemotiv · 2012-03-17 12:12:54

Awebb wrote:

If the user has to click a button, he can also F11 to get the fullscreen. I never understood why software inside a sandbox should be allowed to run anything in fullscreen. I could easily write a transparent overlay, that makes you buy dirty videos, while you thought you clicked an icon on your desktop.

You sell dirty videos?

Awebb · 2012-03-17 12:15:47

litemotiv wrote:

You sell dirty videos?

Not yet, but OP made me think about it. Thanks, HTML5!

Blµb · 2012-03-17 12:18:06

Actually, even if the site was allowed to go fullscreen, I'd never want anything that HTML/Javascript do by themselves affect the browser itself, it may only get the full drawing area within its tab.

Websites are supposed to stay within their windows.
Websites are supposed to stay within their tabs.
Websites are supposed to stay within their technical and ethical boundaries.

If a website was to be allowed to go fullscreen, it would probably NOT be easy for a browser to forcefully restrict that to when the user wants it to happen.
Making a website go fullscreen by itself (or allow 3rd-party advertisments to play sound!) is coercion.

I just had to get that out...

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Trilby · 2012-03-17 12:34:51

I just compared firefox to luakit for a fullscreen html5 video. They seemed to behave quite similar - infact I prefer what luakit did.

Both browsers made the video "maximized", not necessarily fullscreen. The video still responded to WM controls. In xmonad the video took up it's full tile, not the fullscreen.

Luakit created a new window for the video, firefox seemed to be replaced by the video and was unaccessible until the video was exited.

I'm not sure what functionality firefox is supposed to have that other browsers wouldn't.

EDIT: in both cases I also had to click "fullscreen" on the video, as has been the way it has worked on youtube or hulu for quite some time.

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quasifilmie · 2012-03-17 17:08:15

To clarify, in other browsers one has to press f11 again to get TRUE fullscreen. HTML5 has true fullscreen (without pressing f11) supported but it seems that a lot of browsers have yet to adopt it. Go to an html5 video on youtube in firefox 10 or above and click fullscreen. Do the same thing in say rekonq, midori or opera and for me I have to press f11. My point is that html5 is basically ready to take over flash but that companies and web devs are unwilling to adopt html5 because it is still not mainstream enough. BTW, internet explorer 10 does support this true html5 fullscreen.

sankeytm · 2012-03-17 21:32:04

Web developers conveniently ignore IE6 for some of its lacking features. What makes you think they'll care about browsers that have the same marketshare?

quasifilmie · 2012-03-17 22:29:00

sankeytm wrote:

Web developers conveniently ignore IE6 for some of its lacking features. What makes you think they'll care about browsers that have the same marketshare?

I am not sure what your question is. Do you mean obscure browsers like midori and luakit?

sankeytm · 2012-03-17 23:20:54

quasifilmie wrote:

sankeytm wrote:
Web developers conveniently ignore IE6 for some of its lacking features. What makes you think they'll care about browsers that have the same marketshare?
I am not sure what your question is. Do you mean obscure browsers like midori and luakit?

Well, w3schools claims they get the same number of hits from opera (2.3%) as IE7 (2.6%). This is obviously not a representation of arch users, but this is important data for web devs.

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