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#1 2012-03-28 13:58:47

sandstorm
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Flash does not work after todays update

Hi all, after today's update of the flashplugin, firefox does not show flash content. I googled other forums and found more people reporting this isses, example: http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthr … ?p=1790643

Seems like Adobe mixed something up. Raise a bug or wait?

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#2 2012-03-28 14:41:02

fritz
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

sandstorm wrote:

Seems like Adobe mixed something up.

Here firefox crashes with the update installed.

Edit: Downgraded to flashplugin-11.1.102.63-1-i686 from ARM repository: All fine again

Last edited by fritz (2012-03-28 15:02:25)


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#3 2012-03-28 15:02:26

hadrons123
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

works fine here.
look for the other variable factors.


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#4 2012-03-28 15:12:26

fritz
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

hadrons123 wrote:

look for the other variable factors.

I am using a downgraded xorg. Maybe thats the factor in my case.


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#5 2012-03-28 15:31:15

sandstorm
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

Strange. I just updated my laptop and rebooted. Works fine with the new version of the flashplugin. Both system have the latest updates and the desktops are configured the same way.

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#6 2012-03-28 16:04:33

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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

I updated flash and use chromium, I'm also having issues. (Turns out scrot doesn't take fullscreen youtube screenshots very well, but you get the idea) http://i.imgur.com/J7Rnc.png As you can see the colours off.

Also, and this is hard to explain, the area of the chromium window where the flash object resides, if I am on a different tab, that same area of the screen isn't rendered properly. The text looks blotchy, for want of a better word.

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#7 2012-03-28 16:11:57

fettouhi
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

Try to turn off hardware acceleration.

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#8 2012-03-28 16:21:14

sandstorm
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

I think I do not have hardware acceleration turned on. But anyway, how do I do this in nouveau driver?

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#9 2012-03-28 16:27:49

brebs
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

fritz wrote:

Downgraded to flashplugin-11.1.102.63

That version has some exploits apparently sad

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#10 2012-03-28 21:02:17

fettouhi
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

sandstorm wrote:

I think I do not have hardware acceleration turned on. But anyway, how do I do this in nouveau driver?

Right click in a flash video and choose settings. Look for the flag with hardware acceleration and uncheck it.

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#11 2012-03-28 21:41:16

sandstorm
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

I think that will not work as the flashplugin is not loaded/presented. For example youtube is just a black screen. Right-clicking it just shows the normal firefox menu.

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#12 2012-03-29 07:10:04

fritz
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

brebs wrote:
fritz wrote:

Downgraded to flashplugin-11.1.102.63

That version has some exploits apparently sad

A patched older version is available:
From the original security bulletin from Adobe:

"For users who cannot update to Flash Player 11.2.202.228, Adobe has developed a patched version of Flash Player 10.3, Flash Player 10.3.183.18, which can be downloaded here."

Performance of the 10.3.183.18 seems OK so far.
But it is not in any Archlinux repositories and has to be installed manually:
Extract the libflashplayer.so from the "... .linux.tar.gz" inside the "fp_10.3.183.18_archive.zip" to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins


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#13 2012-03-29 14:35:05

b0b0tiken
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

I've had some random issues with the player (too much blue color, video still playing if I move a terminal over it, etc).

However, it seems to work after turning off hardware acceleration.

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#14 2012-03-29 15:31:57

triplesquarednine
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

I see there are a few threads on this new version of flash, now.

I had the blue/green messed up color issue, as well. However, not all videos were affected, it was mainly just youtube. Some other videos that used flash, seemed to be color-correct.

Interestingly, i found two situations where i could actually see youtube videos in my H/W accelerated VMs in VMware. I should taken a screenshot, you could see parts on the video bleeding through the Guest's composited parts. In Flowcanvas (ie: Gladish, Patchage, Ingen) you could see the entire video placed behind the connetions/flowcanvas.

but only if firefox/browser/video was minimized. it was really odd.

anyway, i downgraded and will wait until there is a proper/non-buggy/hw-accelerated update.

cheerz

Last edited by triplesquarednine (2012-03-29 15:33:04)

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#15 2012-03-29 15:57:15

Gusar
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

triplesquarednine wrote:

will wait until there is a proper/non-buggy/hw-accelerated update.

You'll be waiting for a loooooooong time then, as 11.2 is the last flash version we'll ever get. Future versions will be only for Chrome/Chromium.

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#16 2012-03-29 18:22:19

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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

Gusar wrote:
triplesquarednine wrote:

will wait until there is a proper/non-buggy/hw-accelerated update.

You'll be waiting for a loooooooong time then, as 11.2 is the last flash version we'll ever get. Future versions will be only for Chrome/Chromium.

That is all fine and handy, but as you said 11.2 is what i *will* get,... and being as 11.2 is somewhat broken, i am sure we will see another update or two to at least fix the color issue (as I am sure adobe didn't intend for 11.2 to have that mis-feature).

...and yes, i am fully aware of the status of Flash ~ as i read the original announcement to this, but that still doesn't change my original comment.... I will wait to upgrade until they release a stable 11.2 with proper/non-buggy/hw-accelerated update.  In case you didn't read the announcement, Adobe plans to maintain 11.2 for something like 5 years.

By saying they will maintain it, that implies fix/repair issues. (as that is what 'maintenance' is).. they just won't add features, or release versions using the old API. But yes, you are correct, future versions of Flash will maintained by Google, and will use the new API.

cheerz

Last edited by triplesquarednine (2012-03-29 18:25:20)

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#17 2012-03-29 18:23:29

triplesquarednine
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

accidently, quoted instead myself, instead of editing... oops.

sorry for the noise (i don't see a way to delete comments).

Last edited by triplesquarednine (2012-03-29 18:24:38)

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#18 2012-03-29 18:30:57

Gusar
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

You're very optimistic if you believe they'll actually be doing something with 11.2 other critical security fixes. Your best bet is to use the libvdpau_trace hack.

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#19 2012-03-30 02:21:02

triplesquarednine
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

Gusar wrote:

You're very optimistic if you believe they'll actually be doing something with 11.2 other critical security fixes. Your best bet is to use the libvdpau_trace hack.

Maybe im being optimistic, maybe i'm not. Maybe everything you are saying is just your opinion, fud or possibly fact. time will tell.

as for using that hack, that is a no-go for me. I can't pass 'export VDPAU_TRACE=1' in my session manager (Ladish), and i need ladish to keep my sound connection for firefox persistent in the graph. Ladish needs to hook into the executable, so using a script or passing export before the executable isn't going to work for me.

it's great that some nvidia dev made this patch, but it is absolutely stupid that they wouldn't fix it in flash, when it appears that they know exactly what is going wrong.

cheerz

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#20 2012-03-30 07:59:29

Gusar
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

triplesquarednine wrote:

but it is absolutely stupid that they wouldn't fix it in flash

Nvidia doesn't make Flash, Adobe does. So don't direct this at Nvidia.

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#21 2012-03-30 11:56:27

triplesquarednine
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

Gusar wrote:
triplesquarednine wrote:

but it is absolutely stupid that they wouldn't fix it in flash

Nvidia doesn't make Flash, Adobe does. So don't direct this at Nvidia.

I'm not directing it at Nvidia, thank you very much. but, thanks for pointing out the obvious, adobe does indeed make flash.

One look at Adobe's bug reports, and you can see they are well aware of the problem, and also probably aware of that little patch.

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#22 2012-03-30 13:17:05

sandstorm
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

One look at Adobe's bug reports, and you can see they are well aware of the problem

That is interesting. Can you post a link to the bug reports of Adobe?

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#23 2012-03-30 17:55:47

triplesquarednine
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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

sandstorm wrote:

One look at Adobe's bug reports, and you can see they are well aware of the problem

That is interesting. Can you post a link to the bug reports of Adobe?

https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?eve … id=3075580
https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?eve … id=3109467
https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?eve … id=3022412
https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?eve … id=3077076

there are more, that all relate to the improper colors, and video showing up in other applications, wherever there is black parts.

From any of those pages, you should be able to search and see more that relate. In one, there is even a link to the nvidia thread @ nv forums and the patch. (not sure if that is one i posted above or not, can't remember).

cheerz.

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#24 2012-03-31 11:53:58

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Re: Flash does not work after todays update

Well, if you look at your second link, Jingbin Wang (from Adobe, as far as my research shows) announced:

Hi swbfan, thanks for your support Adobe Flash and report this issue. But we do not support Linux anymore post 11.2

They will NOT fix the hardware issue according to him. Continue to be optimistic if you prefer. But I concur that your wait will be in vain. Adobe has dropped Linux except for the Chromium thing.


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