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#1 2012-03-30 23:41:24

nhurtt
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Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

I'm trying to run Steam + TF2 through WINE.

The steam Shift+Tab feature works perfectly in Ubuntu out-of-the-box, but doesn't work at all in arch. Has anyone successfully activated this feature; can anyone suggest how I might activate the feature?

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#2 2012-03-31 06:58:18

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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

I can't say that I have tried this feature in Steam on WINE in Archlinux seeing as WINE doesn't seem to work well with my laptop anyways. Using WINE can produce success sometimes and complete failures at other times, as you should be reminded by the information on their website, it is sometimes a game of cat and mouse trying to get things to work.


Laptop: AMD A4-3305M, 4GB RAM, Archlinux 64bit with XFCE4 and Linux Mint Maya with MATE.

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#3 2012-03-31 07:08:24

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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

tell me about it, both steam and archlinux have been acting up like crazy since I installed them. Something works, I reboot and it suddenly doesn't work, reboot again works.. reboot again doesn't work on and on. Infuriating.

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#4 2012-03-31 08:28:41

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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

Shift-tab and steam works nicely here. Make sure you follow appdb.

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#5 2012-03-31 08:32:47

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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

Can you be more specific? I'm fairly certain that I read all of the install notes that people made on appdb.

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#6 2012-03-31 08:55:55

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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

Not much more specific I could be here. You should provide more info, what GPU drivers you are using? Hows your wine configuration?
In the end, wine is really picky software and behaviour depends lots on different setups.

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#7 2012-03-31 19:06:14

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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

CPU: Intel i7 950
Memory: 6GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GTX 280
GPU Driver: proprietary 295.33

From nvidia-xconfig:
X Server XVideo Settings: Sync-to-Vblank: [CURRENTLY] enabled; [TRIED] disabled
OpenGL Settings Sync-to-Vblank:  [CURRENTLY] disabled; [TRIED] enabled

I installed steam in accordance with the wine archwiki:
"env WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=~/.local/share/wineprefixes/steam winetricks steam"

I launch steam with:
"WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=~/.local/share/wineprefixes/steam WINEDEBUG=-all nohup wine ~/.local/share/wineprefixes/steam/drive_c/Program\ Files/Steam/steam.exe >/dev/null 2&>1"

My TF2 launch commands are:
"-console -nod3d9ex -novid -nointro -nojoy -noborder -dxlevel 81 -refresh 120 -heapsize 3145728 -high -noforcemaccel -noforcemparms -sw -fullscreen"

After typing:
"WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=~/.local/share/wineprefixes/steam winecfg"

I set the following options:
Desktop Size: 1920x1080
Emulate a virtual Desktop: [CURRENTLY] on; [TRIED] off
Allow the window manager to decorate the windows: [CURRENTLY] on; [TRIED] off
Allow the window manager to control the windows: [CURRENTLY] on; [TRIED] off
Windows Version: [CURRENTLY] Windows  7; [TRIED] Windows 98/2000/XP
Under Libraries->Existing Overrides: gameoverlayrenderer [CURRENTLY] disabled; [TRIED] Builtin (wine)

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#8 2012-03-31 19:15:54

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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

I should probably also note that this is nearly an identical configuration to my Ubuntu install, which (short of its precoded deficiencies) isn't having any trouble at all.

This is also a bit off topic, but gameplay is terribly inconsistent on arch. If I startup my computer, launch tf2, I can play with 150fps on moderate settings. If I close tf2 and repoen it immediately after, my framerate drops to 10fps even on the lowest video settings. Obviously the problem persists throughout the remainder of my login session. The worst part is that it doesn't always work this way though. Sometimes I launch my computer, then tf2, and I'm still getting the 10fps. Really frustrating.

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#9 2012-04-01 10:40:45

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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

Your problem is propably in having gameoverlayrenderer in library overrides, that is basicaly what the Steam's overlay gui program is.
Wine of course doesn't have builtin version of it, and making it disabled makes it gone from steam games.

Another explanation would be that your window manager or some program steals shitf+tab. The FPS issues are hard to say where they come from.

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#10 2012-04-01 18:20:28

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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

Yeah alright. That library was disabled by default when I installed arch and wine, I just figured it was there for compatibility reasons or something. I'll play around with the settings then and see what happens. Will I need to download the dll from somewhere, or will just deleting the entry work?

My FPS issues SEEM to be resolved by launching tf2 in a separate X session; this solution isn't much of a problem, except switching between vts causes all of the text in tf2 to become horribly mangled and distorted. It's mostly unplayable. I'm in ubuntu right now, but when I reboot to modify the gameoverlayrenderer I'll take  a screenshot or something.

Thanks for the help!

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#11 2012-04-01 21:18:08

nhurtt
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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

Yeah, setting the gameoverlayrenderer to native has fixed the problem. Quite obvious I suppose, in retrospect.

IDK how to inline images on these forums, but w/e. Here's the problem I'm experiencing with switching between vts.

http://uppix.net/7/7/d/5cd9f47777f313d3 … a07ce1.jpg
http://uppix.net/e/8/6/cc172d23c6765694 … e736e6.jpg
http://uppix.net/1/1/a/1450395069669fbd … 4f8d5a.jpg

Any ideas how to stop this, or maybe even just fix it without restarting steam everytime I switch vts?

I've actually modeled my start script from one that you posted on the wine forums, Cloudef. it's:

#!/bin/sh

X :2 -ac -terminate & nvidia-settings --load-config-only
sleep 3
DISPLAY=:2

export WINEARCH=win32
export WINEPREFIX=/home/nick/.local/share/wineprefixes/steam
export WINEDEBUG=-all
export LANG=en_US.utf8

openbox &disown
nohup wine '/home/nick/.local/share/wineprefixes/steam/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/steam.exe' >/dev/null 2&>1

exit 0

The script on the archwiki which supposedly accomplishes launching steam on a separate vt fails miserably on my computer. I've seen other startup scripts which use xinit to launch another X session, but they didn't work well either. Any suggestions / ideas I can use?

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#12 2012-04-01 23:18:53

Cloudef
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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

The VT switching on nvidia blob is really buggy, and may even crash the system. I suggest posting bug report with the screens on nvidia linux section @ nvnews.
Btw, your FPS problems might be ebcause of compositing, if you use any.

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#13 2012-04-02 00:29:53

nhurtt
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Re: Steam In-Game Community & Chat Overlay (Shift+Tab Feature)

I went straight from Ubuntu 10.10 (gnome2) to the current archlinux with gnome3. I have no idea what sort of compositing features are enabled on this desktop by default. I'm still trying to adapt to gnome3 myself. I'm not running compiz, if that's what you mean. Can you suggest any additional system modifications I can make before launching steam that might help?

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