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#1 2012-04-09 10:40:50

nTia89
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[solved] multi core scheduler

hi to everybody,

try cpupower, i noticed that the command cpupower info return:

[mattia@arch-desktop ~]$ sudo cpupower info
System's multi core scheduler setting: not supported
System's thread sibling scheduler setting: not supported
System does not support Intel's performance bias setting
analisi della CPU 0:

because i have a dual-core processor (opteron 175) why the multi-core scheduler isn't supported ?

thanks in advance

Last edited by nTia89 (2012-04-21 17:18:25)


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#2 2012-04-20 15:33:13

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

uppp


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#3 2012-04-20 20:49:40

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

It's a kernel option:

$ zgrep SCHED_MC /proc/config.gz

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#4 2012-04-20 20:51:05

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

infact, why cpupower tell me that isn't supported ???


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#5 2012-04-20 22:42:13

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

Because your chip does not support it.  Get a more modern chip.

$ sudo cpupower info
System's multi core scheduler setting: not supported
System's thread sibling scheduler setting: not supported
System does not support Intel's performance bias setting
analyzing CPU 0:

$ grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo 
model name	: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X3360  @ 2.83GHz
model name	: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X3360  @ 2.83GHz
model name	: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X3360  @ 2.83GHz
model name	: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X3360  @ 2.83GHz

Compare to:

$ sudo cpupower info
System's multi core scheduler setting: 1
System's thread sibling scheduler setting: 1
analyzing CPU 0:
Could not read perf-bias value

$ grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo 
model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz
model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz
model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz
model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz

Last edited by graysky (2012-04-20 22:46:28)

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#6 2012-04-21 07:45:32

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

why isn't supported my cpu ?

on what mc sched is supported ?


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#7 2012-04-21 12:40:43

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

nTia89, to understand what happens you need to get more accustomed to the CPU models and their capabilities. This is part of your homework, you surely know.

This thread is probably TGN and will be moved there if your questions remain on the current uninformed level.


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#8 2012-04-21 13:14:40

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

i'm not a total noob, i try with google and kernel official documentation but the best i've found is that multicore scheduler should be selected if you have a dual-core CPU or that multicore scheduler is an hardware feature.....

so every CPU with more than one core should use it

where i err ?


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#9 2012-04-21 13:30:40

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

multicore scheduler != `sudo cpupower info`

It is confusing terminology used by the cpupower. 

Try:

$ sudo cpupower monitor
    |Mperf               
CPU | C0   | Cx   | Freq 
   0|******|******|******
   2|******|******|******
   3|******|******|******
   1|******|******|******

I'll bet you see two cores.

Last edited by graysky (2012-04-21 13:32:34)

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#10 2012-04-21 14:25:38

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

output:

[mattia@arch-desktop ~]$ sudo cpupower monitor
No HW Cstate monitors found

what do you mean with:

multicore scheduler != `sudo cpupower info`

???


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#11 2012-04-21 16:11:21

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

That means that the output of the command does not equal the kernel setting.  They are called the same but are different.  It is confusing.  Does htop show two cores?

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#12 2012-04-21 16:19:04

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

graysky wrote:

That means that the output of the command does not equal the kernel setting.  They are called the same but are different.  It is confusing.  Does htop show two cores?

ah, ok

yes, htop show me two core

so, if i see two core multicore scheduler is active ???


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#13 2012-04-21 16:42:06

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

Yes.  Your chip does not support some advanced power saving settings that cpupower uses, that's all the output of the command is telling you.

Last edited by graysky (2012-04-21 16:43:12)

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#14 2012-04-21 17:18:12

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Re: [solved] multi core scheduler

you have been precise !

thanks and SOLVED

Last edited by nTia89 (2012-04-21 17:18:39)


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