America's Army

skparkes · 2003-12-11 17:57:01

Well, I've successfully installed and configured Arch Linux for the most part. I like what I've seen. My alsa is a little messed up, but I hear that's because I installed the 2.4.23 kernel. I tried using abs to build my own, but the default build scripts errored on me. I'm just running OSS right now, which is fine by me.

I've got the Nvidia drivers installed and they are running smooth.

I tried to install Americas Army next. Arch died a slow and painful death. First try it took X down. Second time it just took the Xfce4 panel. And my third attempt froze the whole system. I find this very odd, since it's just a simple installer. I never even got to the liscense screen. I went and retested the same installer file in Slackware, and it ran just fine.

It almost acted like my kernel was pre-emptive for part of the time. My mouse would pause while it was trying to expand the installer, and apps would take forever to load.

I really like Arch and Pacman, but this is gonna be a make or break for me. How can an installer bring my whole system down?

Thanks,

Isamoor

famavolat · 2003-12-11 19:53:46

You know.. I'm having the same problem!
Games that I know work in linux with winex are crashing my system.
It's like I start the installer and right after X goes bye bye.

This is interesting.. Anyone else :?:

skparkes · 2003-12-11 22:25:41

I will get you some logs, I suppose you want system and x logs? I haven't booted back into arch recently bc I needed to get some work done. (This means I stayed in slack not windows.)

I can get those easily enough. Is there a better way to track a crash caused by a specific program? It's not like it spits an error message, kinda generally at least takes the terminal with it. Maybe run a terminal from a terminal?

The exact file was the armyops-200-lnx.run file you can aquire from fileplanet. It's a loki style installer. It passes the integrity check and goes down during expansion I believe. Same file still works on slackware. (It's on a third partition, so no copy corruption)

I'll get you some logs, but it is crunch time for me here so it might be a day or so Hell, probably less, this is stress relief.

Later,

Isamoor

Xentac · 2003-12-11 22:43:00

Where is it uncompressing to? Maybe it's something like /tmp and you don't have enough memory...

skparkes · 2003-12-12 00:39:37

Well, I'm afraid the crash from the install hurt more than I originally thought. The arch partition still boots and appears to work, but there are some things deeply wrong with it. None of my browsers want to work right and pacman crapped on trying to install the full mozilla. I don't think it was pacman's fault, I think specifically it was tar that has bit the dust. Right along with firebird.

I'm pretty sure I started with a good system. I used a .5 base iso that I md5 checked. I installed only the base, then updated pacman and then the rest. Then one by one I built up a base system with pacman, just like I do with debian. It really was running smooth until that install hitch.

My xfree config was directly from slackware. And the x log didn't have anything in it. I did get a hold of the kernel log. I can upload the whole thing, but here is the interesting part I think, the nvidia line is the end of my boot process:

Dec 11 01:42:16 myhost kernel: emu10k1: EMU10K1 rev 7 model 0x8064 found, IO at 0xdf80-0xdf9f, IRQ 9
Dec 11 01:42:16 myhost kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: EMC40 (Unknown)
Dec 11 01:42:16 myhost kernel: emu10k1: SBLive! 5.1 card detected
Dec 11 01:42:43 myhost kernel: 0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4496 Wed Jul 16 19:03:09 PDT 2003
Dec 11 01:51:15 myhost kernel: FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
Dec 11 01:51:15 myhost kernel: VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev 03:07.
Dec 11 01:54:13 myhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
Dec 11 01:54:14 myhost kernel: VM: killing process xftaskbar4
Dec 11 01:54:14 myhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
Dec 11 01:54:14 myhost kernel: VM: killing process X
Dec 11 01:56:24 myhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
Dec 11 01:56:25 myhost kernel: VM: killing process xftaskbar4
Dec 11 01:56:28 myhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
Dec 11 01:56:34 myhost last message repeated 3 times
Dec 11 01:56:35 myhost kernel: VM: killing process xfce4-panel
Dec 11 01:56:35 myhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
Dec 11 01:56:58 myhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
Dec 11 01:56:59 myhost kernel: VM: killing process xfce-mcs-manage
Dec 11 01:57:06 myhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
Dec 11 01:57:07 myhost kernel: VM: killing process xfdesktop
Dec 11 01:57:17 myhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0xf0/0)
Dec 11 01:57:18 myhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
Dec 11 01:57:18 myhost kernel: VM: killing process dd
Dec 11 01:57:18 myhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
Dec 11 01:57:18 myhost kernel: VM: killing process xfwm4
Dec 11 02:00:45 myhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
Dec 11 02:00:46 myhost kernel: VM: killing process icewm
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: ehci_hcd 01:0a.2: remove state 1
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: hcd.c: 01:0a.2: roothub graceful disconnect
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 01:0a.2-0 address 1
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 01:0a.2-2 address 2
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: kusbd: /sbin/hotplug remove 2
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: ehci_hcd 01:0a.2: free_config 2 devnum 2
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: kusbd: /sbin/hotplug remove 1
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: ehci_hcd 01:0a.2: free_config 0 devnum 1
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: ehci_hcd 01:0a.2: stop
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: ehci_hcd 01:0a.2: reset command 01000b (park)=0 ithresh=1 period=256 Reset RUN
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: ehci_hcd 01:0a.2: irq normal 18 err 1 reclaim 7 (lost 0)
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: ehci_hcd 01:0a.2: complete 19 unlink 0
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: ehci_hcd 01:0a.2: ehci_stop completed status 1000 Halt
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: USB bus 3 deregistered
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 01:0a.1-0 address 1
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: kusbd: /sbin/hotplug remove 1
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: USB bus 4 deregistered
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 01:0a.0-0 address 1
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 01:0a.0-1 address 2
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: kusbd: /sbin/hotplug remove 2
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: kusbd: /sbin/hotplug remove 1
Dec 11 02:01:11 myhost kernel: usb.c: USB bus 5 deregistered
Dec 11 02:01:12 myhost kernel: usb.c: deregistering driver usb-storage
Dec 11 02:01:12 myhost kernel: scsi : 0 hosts left.
Dec 11 02:01:12 myhost kernel: eth0: remaining active for wake-on-lan
Dec 11 09:48:30 myhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started.

I believe my memory is fine. I have 512 meg of ram and swap, for a total of a gig. More swap lyin around if I want to use it. It's the same swap I use on slack too.

I noticed the FAT error, but I'm sure that partition is fine. I use it in all linuxes, windows and freebsd just fine.

I haven't wiped the install yet in case you want something else from it.

About the alsa, I had all 4 packages installed, but modprobe claimed the snd_emu10k1 module did not exist. I'm fairly certain this is what I would need wouldn't it be?

Thanks,

Isamoor

skparkes · 2003-12-12 00:40:19

O, and I had plenty of room. About 5 gigs of space left.

Anything else?

Xentac · 2003-12-12 01:28:40

A gig worth of temp may be ok. I have no idea how big the program is when it is uncompressed but your /tmp directory is mounted as a tmpfs. That means that anything that goes into /tmp is actually being stored in memory. I'm sure filling up your memory would be a bad thing.

skparkes · 2003-12-12 04:07:24

I'm really sure it wasn't an issue of running out of space. I have the exact same configuration on slackware and it worked flawlessly.

I really think it was something much more devious. As soon as the binary had checked its integrity and started expanding the system became almost non-responsive. It was like I was installing something in windows. Does arch use any special schedualing patches on the kernel or something?

It was really odd to say the least. I believe the exact thread that ate all my memory and cpu power was "dd" acording to top. I'm not exactly quite sure what that thread was for, but it belonged to the binary.

Has anyone else tried installing Americas Army on a basic Arch install? How about any other loki installers? I know I saw people claiming they were playing UT2K3. Anyone installed it on a recent Arch install?

If there are no other logs you can think that might contain something important, I'm gonna wipe my arch and install again.

Later,

Isamoor

skparkes · 2003-12-12 04:09:24

Just to make sure, next time I'll activate both of my swap partitions. That will give me a gig and a half of memory. I know the total game is smaller than that.

Thanks for all the help. Arch really seems awesome. I'm still sad that my current install is semi-hosed, I was already growing fond of it.

Later,

Isamoor

bOOyah · 2003-12-12 07:46:34

Hi,

I've sucessfully installed AA2.0 on my ArchLinux. Furthermore I have a ATI Radeon 9700 so I think, it is a little bit more buggy then the Nividia ones.

It is running quiet smooth and without any problems, so you see, it can't be an Arch-based problem, I think.

I'm playing Morrowind with winex-3.2 and JediAcademy, both without any probs. Okay, the performance with Nvidia based cards is much better in winex, but I hope there are new and better ATI driver in the future.

I've to say, that I'm not a Linux-Professional (I sometimes boot my windows :oops: ) so it is hard for me to say, what I've done different...

famavolat · 2003-12-12 11:47:59

bOOyah wrote:

Hi,
I've sucessfully installed AA2.0 on my ArchLinux. Furthermore I have a ATI Radeon 9700 so I think, it is a little bit more buggy then the Nividia ones.
It is running quiet smooth and without any problems, so you see, it can't be an Arch-based problem, I think.
I'm playing Morrowind with winex-3.2 and JediAcademy, both without any probs. Okay, the performance with Nvidia based cards is much better in winex, but I hope there are new and better ATI driver in the future.
I've to say, that I'm not a Linux-Professional (I sometimes boot my windows :oops: ) so it is hard for me to say, what I've done different...

Can you post your wine config file so I can see whats different with mine then yours?

skparkes · 2003-12-13 17:47:29

Ah ha! I finally figured out what went wrong. You were right to begin with, I ran out of memory. I ran out for a very stupid reason though. I forgot that the tmp directory in arch is located all in ram/swap. Before I did the install, I copied the install file from my Fat partition, into my tmp directory. From there I copied it to my home. Of course, I forgot all about the copy left in my tmp directory, that was in fact taking up over half a gig of memory.

Once I got rid of that file and added on extra swap just in case, it all ran super smooth. Thanks so much for the help.

I must say this is the first time I remember seeing tmp mounted into ram. It is a nice trick, but I'm gonna have to remember not to leave big files in tmp now.

Now I just have to get alsa straightened out.

Arch is workin' great!

Thanks a bunch,

Isamoor

bOOyah · 2003-12-20 13:56:30

Hi,

sorry for my late reaction, I just have the "standard" wine conf, nothing special.

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