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#26 2012-05-23 13:01:26

KairiTech
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

the.ridikulus.rat wrote:

If you are using systemd, you can try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UE … ng_Systemd .

I tried systemd as you suggested but it seems awfully convoluted (until it becomes the Arch standard at any rate) so I'm currently using incron.


-=[ LIVE enabled UEFI with redundant syslinux pure systemd detached LUKS header partitionless encrypted GPT SSDx3 RAID0 because I can.  ]=-

Backward compatibility is for the masses. There's no dual-boot here...

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#27 2012-05-23 13:21:18

the.ridikulus.rat
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

KairiTech wrote:
the.ridikulus.rat wrote:

If you are using systemd, you can try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UE … ng_Systemd .

I tried systemd as you suggested but it seems awfully convoluted (until it becomes the Arch standard at any rate) so I'm currently using incron.

Nice. Didn't know about this one. Anyway for me systemd is working fine. Please add incron related info to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UEFI_Bootloaders .

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#28 2012-05-24 01:59:58

Jristz
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

I can ask questions?
- The new /etc/sysctl.conf have nyce and well docummented options, you have any plan to add them to the configurables files?
-and wath about the new Hook usr?

EDIT:
what about the udev -> systemd-tools change by uptream?
an finaly any chancee for systemd configs files if systemd are installed, since now systemd are in core

Last edited by Jristz (2012-06-01 19:01:21)


Well, I suppose that this is somekind of signature, no?

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#29 2012-05-26 05:11:16

circleface
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

I went ahead and added the incron method to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UEFI_Bootloaders.  It should work for most users, and might be a bit simpler to set up on some machines. smile

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#30 2012-06-02 15:11:43

tolga9009
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

First, I tried official 2010.05 ISO install, then 2011.08. Nothing worked on my i7-860 machine; it failed to boot, since I undervolted and underclocked my CPU and additionally disabled Hyper-Threading (SMT), which gave me a segmentation fault error. But then, I found this topic and it worked! You saved my life wink! Thank you, Sir.

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#31 2012-06-04 20:24:26

acvar
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

Is there a good reason that we can not just set our ESP to mount at /boot.  Keep our kernel and initrds in the place they currently reside.  Place refind in /boot/efi/boot/ and put an entry in refind.conf to boot the kernel and initrd from thier normal locations?  This would remove the need to copy./move kernels and initrds, and would keep everything very similar to the current setup.  This is how I set up my new system and it seems to be working just fine.

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#32 2012-06-06 05:23:04

the.ridikulus.rat
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

acvar wrote:

Is there a good reason that we can not just set our ESP to mount at /boot.  Keep our kernel and initrds in the place they currently reside.  Place refind in /boot/efi/boot/ and put an entry in refind.conf to boot the kernel and initrd from thier normal locations?  This would remove the need to copy./move kernels and initrds, and would keep everything very similar to the current setup.  This is how I set up my new system and it seems to be working just fine.

Having /boot separate from uefisys allows you to use a *nix filesystem for /boot rather than fat32/vfat , since vfat does not allow many things like symlinks, unix permissions etc. and e don't know when such filesystem features might be required for files in /boot .

Archboot does not support a common /boot and uefisys .  During install just install refind to /boot/efi, and then copy the files back to /boot .

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#33 2012-06-06 10:45:47

acvar
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

So you need a more robust filesystem for something that contains 3 files that are only there so they can be copied/moved to another filesystem?  We are stuck with the limitations of vfat no matter what.  The only files on the boot partion on an EFI system are the kernel and the initrds.  I see no reason to add yet another partition that serves no purpose other then as a very temporary install point.  KISS!  Things should be simple and without unneeded complextity.  Archboot does not fit this motto.

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#34 2012-06-06 13:06:06

tpowa
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

acvar, keshav knows uefi best, KISS is good but it seems it's not as easy.

New release will show up soon, so if anything is needed for new release please tell it us now.
Highlight of upcoming release:
-systemd support
-signed packages support

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#35 2012-06-06 19:39:53

the.ridikulus.rat
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

tpowa wrote:

acvar, keshav knows uefi best, KISS is good but it seems it's not as easy.

The recommended setup is having UEFISYS separate from /boot. Archboot will not allow same partition as both as supporting all the possible user requirements is beyond the scope of the installer.

New release will show up soon, so if anything is needed for new release please tell it us now.
Highlight of upcoming release:
-systemd support
-signed packages support

I don't think its a good idea to release a new iso. Let the changes in [core] repo and "base" group and all the rebuilds be finalized first. I have not tries netinstall with the 2012.04-2 iso, but if it works the setup script in the iso, no need to release one now.

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#36 2012-06-06 19:52:54

acvar
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

Oh I realize EFI is a buggy mess.  I have done LFS, but when I set out to set up my new computer with an EFI boot I was completely lost.  The wiki is all over the place.  I could not make head or tail of it.  I downloade archboot so I could see how it threw it altogether and fankly that really didn't help.  My system would not boot.  I finally found Rodrick's site and started to make some headway.  By the time I was done I had multiple files in multiple places and I went to work on clearing things. out.  After getting rid of all the uneeded and duplicate files I relized that the only thing on my boot partition was the kernel and intird and those were only there so they could be installed and imediately copied to the ESP?  I just don't see a reason for this.  After I read up on rEFInd and read through the config file I relized I did not need a tradition boot partion.  I mounted my ESP at /boot, made a couple of entries in refind.conf and everthing just worked and honestly it was all easier then a traditional bios boot, and this is on a gigabyte board with "hybrid EFI".

I believe the way I have set it up is the best way.  It works with my gimped EFI although I hear it may require a bit of tweaking with some EFIs since some will only exectue programs that end in .efi.  Because of this I would suggest that Arch add .efi to the kernel name.  Its not like the name matters to traditional bootloaders.  From what i have read efibootmgr is striaght out as a standard since it borks some macs.  Antying that boots off of something other then ESP:EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi is out thanks to gigabyte boards.  That leaves our options for a sane default limited.  I only have my stystem to test on.  If others can test my layout to ensure that it works on all systems it seems like the most KISS option availaible.

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#37 2012-06-11 18:26:08

anespo
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

I would like to ask how to add "other source" repository, where can i mount (to /src ?) and if I muss to create the repo in squash, or just have a directory.

Somehow I slept through time (a long time I did not have to reinstall) - procedures have changed since 2010/2011. Thanks!!

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#38 2012-06-12 23:37:27

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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

I am trying to install on an MSI H77MA-G43 motherboard. When I boot the image from my USB stick in UEFI mode I get dumped in a grub prompt, but in normal mode the installer works (but I can't configure the bootloader to use UEFI). Any idea how I can solve this?

BTW I had to use UNetBootin to write the ISO to my USB stick, I used dd originally but then I could not even boot it in UEFI mode.

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#39 2012-06-18 06:26:55

tpowa
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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

New ISO released please continue here:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143541

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#40 2012-06-18 06:42:42

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Re: 2012.04-1 archboot "2k12-R2" ISO hybrid images released

Closing: new one fresh out of the oven...


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