[Solved] Wireless setup problems

HungGarTiger · 2012-07-02 13:36:40

I set up my first Arch install today, and everything has gone nicely.

The only issue I am having is setting up my wireless, I followed the guide in wiki (manual setup) and when it suggested me to follow wpa_supplicant I followed that. But it still doesnt seem to be working (connecting).

I can scan and identify my wireless with "lshw -C network" which shows I am using the ath9k driver, although it seems to say my wireless is "DOWN". I have tried "ip link wlan0 set up" but that doesnt change anything.

I can't seem to copy with xterm either, so please suggest a terminal that has this function when requesting more information. I'm sorry I can't give you more at this point, this is my first time with Arch (i.e. having so much control over my system) I'm not sure where to look. And I tried so many different suggestions in the wiki I dont know where to start anyway.

Thank you for your time, it is very much appreciated - so please forgive the initial lack of information on my part

Last edited by HungGarTiger (2012-07-07 15:19:02)

altbdoor · 2012-07-02 14:16:22

hi HungGarTiger, welcome to arch linux!

HungGarTiger wrote:

The only issue I am having is setting up my wireless, I followed the guide in wiki (manual setup) and when it suggested me to follow wpa_supplicant I followed that. But it still doesnt seem to be working (connecting).

please try setting up an access point with no encryption first. you have to make sure that your module is able to connect without any encryption before going any further.
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HungGarTiger wrote:

I can't seem to copy with xterm either, so please suggest a terminal that has this function when requesting more information. I'm sorry I can't give you more at this point, this is my first time with Arch (i.e. having so much control over my system) I'm not sure where to look. And I tried so many different suggestions in the wiki I dont know where to start anyway.

i understand that you are a beginner here, so, a word of advice, employ the DSFR principle. please make a thorough google search on arch wiki and arch forums before asking questions. most of the time, they were already answered, and thus, making a post seem redundant.

for your xterm copy/paste problem, it is already solved here. as for xterm alternatives, you could check out a whole great list in the wiki.

HungGarTiger · 2012-07-02 14:27:06

altbdoor wrote:

i understand that you are a beginner here, so, a word of advice, employ the DSFR principle. please make a thorough google search on arch wiki and arch forums before asking questions. most of the time, they were already answered, and thus, making a post seem redundant.
for your xterm copy/paste problem, it is already solved here. as for xterm alternatives, you could check out a whole great list in the wiki.

Hey altbdoor, thanks for the advice. I had already checked both and wasn't getting any results, maybe the terms I was using to search with wern't right - hence posting here. I would really solve a problem on my own if I can.

I have gotten wpa_gui working, and can see my network. All I need to do is figure out which encryption type I am using and so on I guess now.

I went back to the guide and went through word by word, I think maybe networkmanager and network were conflicting.

I'll not mark this thread as solved yet, incase I come across a hump I can't get over.

altbdoor · 2012-07-02 14:39:47

HungGarTiger wrote:

Hey altbdoor, thanks for the advice. I had already checked both and wasn't getting any results, maybe the terms I was using to search with wern't right - hence posting here. I would really solve a problem on my own if I can.

you're welcome learn to use google more effectively, or use the search function here in arch linux forums
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HungGarTiger wrote:

I have gotten wpa_gui working, and can see my network. All I need to do is figure out which encryption type I am using and so on I guess now.
I went back to the guide and went through word by word, I think maybe networkmanager and network were conflicting.
I'll not mark this thread as solved yet, incase I come across a hump I can't get over.

glad it did work

stqn · 2012-07-03 00:55:24

Just use netcfg, no need to touch wpa_supplicant or another low-level tool yourself.

HungGarTiger · 2012-07-03 10:26:37

I managed to pull my "wlan0" up in wpa_gui and could 'attempt' to connect with my router, but I was getting nowhere with it (with no password and with). I checked my router (bear in mind my router is all in Chinese), and I think the encryption methods offered by my router and by wpa_gui were different protocols. When I selected WPA-Personal, I had different options. I'll try with netcfg tonight when I get home, thanks for the suggestions

altbdoor · 2012-07-03 11:57:17

HungGarTiger wrote:

I checked my router (bear in mind my router is all in Chinese)

seeing where you come from, that's not a surprise XD
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HungGarTiger wrote:

I think the encryption methods offered by my router and by wpa_gui were different protocols. When I selected WPA-Personal, I had different options.

perhaps its WEP? there's only WPA/WPA2 and WEP security protocols
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HungGarTiger wrote:

I'll try with netcfg tonight when I get home, thanks for the suggestions

if you have the space, consider networkmanager. with its dependencies, it could rack up to several hundred mbs, but it solves most connection problems (most of the time )

HungGarTiger · 2012-07-03 15:27:19

*edited because of retardation*

I have successfully connected with wpa_supplicant manual method, did the same thing as last night but tonight it just worked.

Now working on auto connect, should I use netcfg (as suggested above) for this?

I think using either netcfg or networkmanager requires the changing of daemons right? I am slightly against messing with that now it is working...

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nomorewindows · 2012-07-03 15:33:51

You have to make changes to your iwconfig and then dhcpcd/dhclient with root.

altbdoor · 2012-07-04 00:32:28

HungGarTiger wrote:

I think using either netcfg or networkmanager requires the changing of daemons right? I am slightly against messing with that now it is working...

you could check out the respective wiki pages for netcfg and networkmanager.

netcfg does not change the daemons array drastically, just some minor changes. from what i just skimmed in the wiki (i don't use netcfg), its just for connecting automatically to your network.

networkmanager requires more work. you have to disable network, and enable networkmanager and dbus. and there's the problem with consolekit, and gnome keyring... lots of troubleshooting, but when all is done and it works, it works

HungGarTiger · 2012-07-04 01:34:36

Yeah I have gone through both of the wikis, but when I'm not 'working' through them the steps can seem a little daunting So sometimes I ask a little question for clarification, like above.

I have installed both right now, and will play with them tonight after I practice with the manual set-up a couple of times.

Networkmanager is the same one used by Gnome right? It does seem a slightly heavy package, having to install all sorts of themes, icon sets and junk

altbdoor · 2012-07-04 02:20:48

HungGarTiger wrote:

Networkmanager is the same one used by Gnome right? It does seem a slightly heavy package, having to install all sorts of themes, icon sets and junk

yes, networkmanager is from gnome. it does take in a lot of junk. you may need consolekit and gnome-keyring as well.

OU812 · 2012-07-05 03:24:21

If you have netcfg installed, you can test it by running

#wifi-menu

in a terminal. You should get a menu of available networks. Pick the one you want and it will walk you through the setup process. Then read the wiki

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netcfg

to set things up a bit more permanently.

john

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