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#1 2005-09-11 07:09:34

thunderwolf318
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Reiser can be such a.................

I have 2 disks with reiserfs on them and they both act like they are full when they are at about 60% applications like azureus act like they cant write to them because they are full.

df -h gives me

Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda6              61G   46G   15G  76% /
none                  505M     0  505M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hdb1              38G  5.5G   32G  15% /mnt/drive2
/dev/hda1              14G   11G  3.9G  73% /mnt/Windows/C
/dev/hdd1             112G   23G   90G  21% /mnt/Windows/D

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#2 2005-09-11 07:12:51

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

lol....


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#3 2005-09-11 07:14:31

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

token! how did i know you were going to post that hmm

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#4 2005-09-13 01:16:18

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

i always seem to come up with the problems noone can solve

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#5 2005-09-13 01:33:44

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

In this case, probably because you're the only one who has come close to filling an HDD.

(I find that I can't even come close to filling up a 30 gig partition... And I have an extra 40-gigger now. Only 2 uses I can think of for it right now: backup, and moving my system to a reiser4 partition - I'll probably do the latter during my next vacation.)

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#6 2005-09-13 01:59:12

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

reiser4 isn't ready, IMHO. i'd wait until it's mainlined sometime later...

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#7 2005-09-13 02:10:28

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

It isn't? What problems does it suffer from?

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#8 2005-09-13 02:17:06

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

i used what the arch installer lables as reiser fs does that use reiser 3 or 4?

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#9 2005-09-13 02:35:15

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

Torrents create files that are empty, but take up space. I'm sorry I can't explain that better, but they do, to make sure there's enough room for it to download to. df -h probably gives you actual usage (not counting the empty space in those torrent downloads) and BT gives the realistic usage (how much space is required).

Hope that makes sense.

The Arch installer uses Reiser 3. R4 has to be installed/setup manually through the AUR and what not.


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#10 2005-09-13 02:38:27

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

Oh, btw. Reiser 4 is terriffic. I used it for 3 months and it never hiccuped once. Faster than any other FS I've used, that's for sure. Even Ext3 + dir_index is slow compared to R4.

Imho, it's ready for mainline, but it's being held back by Debian syndrom (unless it's 2-3 (or more in the case of a FS) years old, it's no good).


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#11 2005-09-13 02:38:55

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

i dont have any downloads going right now. Ii did come up with that too.

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#12 2005-09-13 02:45:18

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

i've had some issues with the internal changes that were introduced in reiser4 lately that cause one filesystem to fubar. also, when /var was on reiser4 my pacman database would NEVER md5sum correctly when using pacman-optimize. I may try reiser4 again in a few months when I'm not doing anything and can afford to experiment.

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#13 2005-09-13 19:38:13

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

Wait a minute... What is this dir_index you speak of?

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#14 2005-09-13 19:50:42

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

GJ, maybe that'll explain a bit.

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#15 2005-09-13 21:09:59

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

this kind of thing happens on reiserfs (3) if you run filesharing apps and download huge file (>500megs, you all know what i mean). for example azureus allocates the whole file but reiserfs will never report this in its low level stats, only when the pieces of the file are actually written the available space will really decrease drasticly.


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#16 2005-09-13 22:48:38

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

Thanks, lucke.

kth5, that's interesting news... I don't download large files regularly, but I'll have to keep this in mind if I ever want to do something with a CD image.

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#17 2005-09-13 23:14:24

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

So do you have any idea how i fix this?

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#18 2005-09-15 21:58:15

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

i guess not

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#19 2005-09-15 23:06:57

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

I don't know. I use ReiserFS, and on the occasions I have used BT, I haven't found any huge invisible files to be occupying space; when I terminated torrents and deleted the partially downloaded files, space was freed up on my drive.

Maybe you should look in Azureus's hidden directory and see if it's storing anything bulky there?

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#20 2005-09-15 23:41:04

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Re: Reiser can be such a.................

there are no hiden files taking up space

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