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#1 2012-07-19 07:48:21

PhotonX
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[solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

Hello community,

I'm struggling to solve an update problem which prevents me to upgrade 5 packages by now. It's related to the current modules loading restructuration but appeared much earlier in my case, to be more precise with the update to kernel 3.3.7.  If you're interested in the concrete problem here it is: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1107516

I'm trying to figure out the cause of the problem and wanted to check the changelog of the kernel package. But as you can see in https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit … ages/linux there is no 3.3.7 kernel in the changelog at all! But I'm pretty sure that there was such a version back in may 2012. For example here is the appropriate bit of my pacman.log:

[2012-05-26 12:38] ==> Starting build: 3.3.7-1-ARCH
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [base]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [udev]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [autodetect]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [pata]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [scsi]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [sata]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [filesystems]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [usbinput]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [fsck]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [fglrx]
[2012-05-26 12:38] Building fglrx module for 3.3.7-1-ARCH kernel ...
[2012-05-26 12:38] Ok.
[2012-05-26 12:38] ==> Generating module dependencies
[2012-05-26 12:38] ==> Creating gzip initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-linux.img
[2012-05-26 12:38] ==> Image generation successful
[2012-05-26 12:38] ==> Building image from preset: 'fallback'
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-linux-fallback.img -S autodetect
[2012-05-26 12:38] ==> Starting build: 3.3.7-1-ARCH
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [base]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [udev]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [pata]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [scsi]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [sata]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [filesystems]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [usbinput]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [fsck]
[2012-05-26 12:38]   -> Parsing hook: [fglrx]
[2012-05-26 12:38] Building fglrx module for 3.3.7-1-ARCH kernel ...
[2012-05-26 12:38] Ok.
[2012-05-26 12:38] ==> Generating module dependencies
[2012-05-26 12:38] ==> Creating gzip initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-linux-fallback.img
[2012-05-26 12:38] ==> Image generation successful
[2012-05-26 12:38] upgraded linux (3.3.6-1 -> 3.3.7-1)

So where can I get the full "linux" package changelog?

Thanks,
PhotonX

Last edited by PhotonX (2012-07-21 07:32:53)


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#2 2012-07-19 07:59:13

Allan
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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

The 3.4 kernel was in the [testing] repo and so 3.3.7 was committed straight to [core].  That means, no changelog.

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#3 2012-07-19 08:01:51

PhotonX
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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

So there is no possibility to find out what was changed in the 3.3.7 package? What would you advise to do to debug the problem? I already opened up a bug report (https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30044) and a thread on the forums (linked in my first post) but there is no solution in any of them...


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#4 2012-07-19 09:00:18

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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

Download 3.3.7-x and the one before it from the ARM and diff the key files.

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#5 2012-07-19 09:13:08

PhotonX
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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

Sorry for the dumb question, but: What is the ARM?

I have both packages in the cache though but, unfortunately, the .PKGINFO files differ only by the version and build date, the same holds for the .INSTALL files. So it looks like the problem is in the kernel itself. But the symptoms are absolutely the same like those appearing after a bad kmod update from 9-1 to 9-2...


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#6 2012-07-19 09:24:25

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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

PhotonX wrote:

Sorry for the dumb question, but: What is the ARM?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Do … ckages#ARM


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#7 2012-07-19 09:40:53

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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

Shouldn't there at least be a commit message here? It is as if there never had been a 3.3.7.

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#8 2012-07-19 09:45:24

PhotonX
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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

jasonwryan, that's nice, didn't know about it before. But luckily I have all versions beginning with 3.3.6-1 in my cache and as I said there seems to be no difference in the packaging stuff...

Awebb, I'm also quite surprised but it seems as if the devs have some kind of workflow where no changelog is being made of core packages (see reply by Allan).


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#9 2012-07-19 10:14:09

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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

PhotonX wrote:

So it looks like the problem is in the kernel itself.

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/ … eLog-3.3.7

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#10 2012-07-19 11:41:26

PhotonX
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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

Thanks, I've already found this, but it's quite long and I don't know how to search there for useful information efficiently. At least a search for "modules" returns no helpful hits. Also I suppose that since the symptoms are the same as in the current kmod update problems, it could still be a problem of the distro...


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#11 2012-07-20 16:03:33

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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

I think it's a similar issue / question to https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=133534

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#12 2012-07-20 18:31:16

PhotonX
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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

Yes, but unfortunately even in http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/ … ages/linux I can't find any entry concerning 3.3.7-1...

edit: Oh, now I found it: http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/ … 9ccbbc7264

The only thing that was changed was the md5 sum of the second file. But what file is this?

Last edited by PhotonX (2012-07-20 18:36:05)


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#13 2012-07-20 20:19:56

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#14 2012-07-21 07:32:32

PhotonX
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Re: [solved] Why is the "linux" package changelog not complete?

Thanks, karol, so this is really nothing package related but coming directly from the kernel devs... Then I guess the question of this thread is answered and I'll have to search for other methods to solve my problem. smile


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