I'm starting to think that fluxbox is a bit crap...

Cam · 2005-09-20 05:58:52

I still use fluxbox. I've used E17 and liked the feel of it but the lack of tools/effort involved in getting and keeping it in a usable state bugged me too much. Once it's more mature, I could use it easily. E16, on the other hand, didn't float my boat at all.

dtw · 2005-09-20 07:09:26

I have started down the long road to a working fvwm config. I have been using fluxbox for so long now I rely on various keybindings so that i stop of my list to get sorted

Cam · 2005-09-20 08:48:02

I tried a config a flogged off fvwm.lair.be (sp?) and it looked great. I didn't like the "feel" of it at all though, hard to explain but I know what I mean So for the time being I'm going to stick with fluxbox and continue trying out random window managers as I hear about them.

dtw · 2005-09-20 08:54:48

I have realized fluxbox does nothing other window managers don't and it generally does them worse. The devlopement team is pathetic and I'm generally hacked off with their whole ethos, arrogance and, above all, their crap window manager! Grrrrrrrrr!

agilyben · 2005-09-20 12:03:07

I keep trying other WMs, but I still end up sticking with fluxbox. I guess other than flux, I use KDE in my PCLinuxOS systems. ;-)

ozar · 2005-09-20 17:58:18

Guess I'm too lazy to be bothered with configuring FVWM. Every time I've installed it, I get about half way through the configuration process, then decide it's simply too much work.

iBertus · 2005-09-20 18:03:15

ozar wrote:

Guess I'm too lazy to be bothered with configuring FVWM. Every time I've installed it, I get about half way through the configuration process, then decide it's simply too much work.

Same here! I'll be trying out ArchWM base when rasat gets somewhat further along...

stonecrest · 2005-09-20 19:49:02

dibblethewrecker wrote:

I have started down the long road to a working fvwm config.

Welcome aboard 8)

Certainly fvwm has a decent learning curve, but I feel that it's akin to Arch's own learning curve. I'm certainly not an expert on either one but I find that the results more than makes up for the extra effort I have to put in.

pressh · 2005-09-20 20:25:40

fvwm just rocks. One question though: If some of you guys are 'too lazy' to make a config yourself, why not give fvwm-crysal (is in aur) a try. It works almost out of the box with a nice config.
But I guess I stay with my own config, i like my bindings too much

iBertus · 2005-09-20 20:32:10

fvwm needs a cleaner config syntax.

pressh · 2005-09-20 20:36:02

it's clear to me but that's after long time of a happy marriage

Snowman · 2005-09-20 21:02:46

pressh wrote:

fvwm just rocks. One question though: If some of you guys are 'too lazy' to make a config yourself, why not give fvwm-crysal (is in aur) a try. It works almost out of the box with a nice config.
But I guess I stay with my own config, i like my bindings too much

There's also fvwm-themes-devel in community. I tried them both and didn't like them. I wanted something to customize everything seperately (like KDE) while these package tends to apply a theme on everything. It seemed to me that modifying them to my liking would take the same amount of time to customize the autogenerated config I had at that time.

I also tried ArchWM. It hadn't a lot of features at that time. I might retry it with the newest version. And the slowliness of the UCB server doesn't help.

BTW, I can make my fvwm config available if it interest anyone.

pressh · 2005-09-20 21:07:19

well, you can share a screenshot with us, because we all like screenshots I can share my latest also if someone is interested

[edit] yes i know, that is supposed to go somewhere else, but still

Snowman · 2005-09-20 21:12:38

pressh wrote:

well, you can share a screenshot with us, because we all like screenshots I can share my latest also if someone is interested

Yes, http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … c&start=60
It's pretty plain. I'm in my eye-candy indigestion period.

EDIT: Maybe we should start a FVWM thread?

pressh · 2005-09-20 21:42:00

I like your torsmo box in the bottom What mplayer frontend are you using?i like it too!

Continuation of fvwm topic: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=15309

Snowman · 2005-09-20 23:45:59

pressh wrote:

I like your torsmo box in the bottom What mplayer frontend are you using?i like it too!
Continuation of fvwm topic: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=15309

Thanks
BTW, it's not torsmo, it's conky I can post ~/.conkyrc if you want.
It's gmplayer with the Corelian skin available on mplayer web site.

pressh · 2005-09-21 07:43:44

no i think i can do it myself i just never thought of the idea of such a simple conky box Mine is always too bloated

Snowman · 2005-09-21 08:00:10

I think that I got the idea from another user's screenshot too. I had a large torsmo setup like yours but it was almost always covered by a window. By having only 1-2 line at bottom of screen, you can keep it uncovered without wasting lots of destop space.
Man, this thread covers a lot of topics: fluxbox, ArchWM, FVWM, Waimea, e17 and now screenshot discussions :shock:

pressh · 2005-09-21 08:31:46

Changing my conkyrc at the moment, and running into a bit of a problem. Am I able to create columns inside a conkyrc file, or should I just create several conkyrc files (I had already two) and using different gap sizes to create columns?

[edit] I prefer one file, because I want to include a border around my conky, and this is not possible (at least not that I know) with multiple conky scripts

Snowman · 2005-09-21 16:16:01

If you want to align entries to make columns, I think you need to uses spaces unless there's a special command. Or do you want to have a box around each column? If so, I don't think it's possible (at least I couldn't figure out how to do it). Here's what I use, don't know if it will help you.

TEXT
CPU:${color yellow} $cpu%$color   RAM:${color yellow} $memperc% $color(${color yellow}$mem$color/${color yellow}$memmax$color)   Swap:${color yellow} $swapperc% $color(${color yellow}$swap$color/${color yellow}$swapmax$color)    Temp: ${color yellow}$acpitemp$color °C  $alignr Battery time: ${color red}${battery}$color
Networking:   Up:${color yellow} ${upspeed eth0} k/s  $color(${color yellow}${totalup eth0}$color)   Down:${color yellow} ${downspeed eth0} k/s $color(${color yellow}${totaldown eth0}$color)  ${color light blue}$alignr${time %e %b, %Y  %l:%M %p}

EDIT: There's alignr and alignc to align text.

pressh · 2005-09-21 16:35:19

Yes, thought of spaces already, but don't think that's the way to go because in that way it is difficult to determine the excact positions for each column. Anyway, thanks for the help. I solved it by using seperate files and for each using a different gap spacing (added a new screenie to the screenshot topic (also my config & conky configs are linked there)

Snowman · 2005-09-21 17:20:42

I assume that you are running multiple instances of conky, right?
I originally wanted to do something like that, i.e. to have the date/time in it's own box. But it was with torsmo and there was flickering. I might try it with conky, now.

pressh · 2005-09-21 17:59:08

yes, it are indeed multiple instances of conky. It is easy to do that using fvwm. As a init func load some script, and put in the script

killall torsmo > /dev/null 2>&1

for I in ${HOME}/.conky/*.conkyrc
do
    conky -c $I &
done

Snowman · 2005-09-21 20:42:24

Thanks. Usually I start conky with .xsession.

pressh · 2005-09-22 07:59:05

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