[SOLVED] Having problem with installing Arch Linux UEFI systems

bijanz · 2012-07-27 21:14:50

Hi,
I have a Lenovo notebook and I have tried for couple of days to fix this problem I have but it just do not want to work. It is so stupid because for about 2 weeks ago I installed Arch Linux on my system and it worked fine but when I tried to install it again on the same system it just did not want to work because of Arch using GRUB2 and I do not know why it will not work for me. I have tried to install GRUB2 using wikis instruction and when I came to UEFI shell and when I tried to load the UEFI shell 2.0 gave an error wich I took a photo of so you can see it.

http://img.majidonline.com/pic/278757/IMG_0049.JPG
mirror= http://up.vatandownload.com/images/o4ep … yi0tx3.jpg

I also tried UEFI shell 1.0 and I could load it with no problem but the problem was that here I could not use the bcfg command. As it is in Wikis instruction "Note: UEFI Shell 1.0 does not support bcfg command."
The odd thing is that it shows "Shell version 2.0" when you boot the 1.0 version (see picture).

http://img.majidonline.com/pic/278758/IMG_0050.JPG
mirror= http://up.vatandownload.com/images/3pyl … 69aras.jpg

How can I fix this problem?

Last edited by bijanz (2012-07-31 05:42:35)

cfr · 2012-07-27 23:50:29

First image says:

Nid oes modd dangos delwedd "http://img.majidonline.com/pic/278757/IMG_0049.JPG" am ei fod yn cynnwys gwallau.

I seriously doubt that's the error from the UEFI shell. Just for a start, I would be astonished if it turned out to speak Welsh.

Second image says:

Nid oes modd dangos delwedd "http://img.majidonline.com/pic/278758/IMG_0050.JPG" am ei fod yn cynnwys gwallau.

Slow down and tell us what you did and what happened. Installing the boot loader is not the first step in installing. How did you partition? What kind of partition map did you use? Which partitions (sizes, filesystems etc.)?

Also provide details of your hardware, firmware and any relevant BIOS settings.

the.ridikulus.rat · 2012-07-28 03:44:00

GRUB(2) is NOT THE ONLY UEFI bootloader. See https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 5#p1137825 .

Arch mainly ditched grub-legacy in favour of grub-bios . But both grub-bios and grub-efi-x86_64 have been in the official repos for a long time.

bijanz · 2012-07-28 17:41:52

cfr wrote:

First image says:
Nid oes modd dangos delwedd "http://img.majidonline.com/pic/278757/IMG_0049.JPG" am ei fod yn cynnwys gwallau.
I seriously doubt that's the error from the UEFI shell. Just for a start, I would be astonished if it turned out to speak Welsh.
Second image says:
Nid oes modd dangos delwedd "http://img.majidonline.com/pic/278758/IMG_0050.JPG" am ei fod yn cynnwys gwallau.
Slow down and tell us what you did and what happened. Installing the boot loader is not the first step in installing. How did you partition? What kind of partition map did you use? Which partitions (sizes, filesystems etc.)?
Also provide details of your hardware, firmware and any relevant BIOS settings.

Of course installing the boot loader is not the first step, that was just a pic to show what's happening. The instruction that I followed for installing Arch Linux was this:
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/show … p?t=707382
and for the partitions I used parted.
The detail of my hardware is: UEFI BIOS Version 8HET41WW(1.23) 2012-01-13
Lenovo e520
CPU Core i5
HDD: HITACHI 500 GB
And another thing I even tried to load the UEFI shell 2.0 on another notebook exactly like mine to see if there was anything wrong with my notebook but I received the same error so for what I know my notebook is ok so the problem must be something else.

Last edited by bijanz (2012-07-29 05:12:32)

Xemerau · 2012-07-29 14:28:04

I too am having trouble installing on uefi. In the article that was linked here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GR … _systems_2 It states that the grub-uefi boot files must be installed to the uefi system partition. Does this partition already exist if i'm dual booting with windows or do I have to create another partition for it?

cfr · 2012-07-29 21:06:37

bijanz wrote:

Of course installing the boot loader is not the first step, that was just a pic to show what's happening.

I couldn't see the pics before - as I mentioned above - but now I can, the questions are even more pertinent. Without knowing your setup and what you've done, it is hard to have any idea what might be going on.

The instruction that I followed for installing Arch Linux was this:
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/show … p?t=707382

Use the new installation media. I assume you are using the old media if you followed those instructions. (/arch/setup no longer exists; the media can boot in EFI mode etc.) Get the new media and follow the instructions on the wiki.

and for the partitions I used parted.

Which doesn't answer any of the questions I asked above: partition map? partition layout? filesystems? etc.?

MaNNa · 2012-07-30 08:34:44

If I were any of you having problems setting up your system with UEFI, or without for that matter, I would use ARCHboot.

The Wiki is here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot

But you can download the image from any of the mirrors. I use: http://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/archlinux/
but you can go directly to the image directory with this: http://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/archlinux/is … t/2012.06/

As you can see from the Wiki, ARCHboot supports UEFI, however I read somewhere that MOST UEFI systems have a standard BIOS compatibility layer. So this means you shouldn't have to worry about this anyway. (Most systems )

If you have problems still though, I would suggest ARCH Bridge Linux at: http://millertechnologies.net/
or the direct SF download page at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bridgelinux/
and then 'Browse All Files' here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bridgelinux/files/

As it states there on their main page, it does support (U)EFI.

BTW, if you get an error installing GRUB (if you choose GRUB as your bootloader) like I do, go ahead and let it try and then error out. Then go back to 'Install Bootloader' again and install Syslinux. Syslinux works beautifully, especially with ARCHboot! At least here.

BTW2, you can use ARCHboot to fix a broken bootloader. Great ARCH Installer software!

Hope this helps.......

BTW3, if you are looking for a great and easy to use GUI Package Manager, I suggest PacmanXG4.
You can find it here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=56207
If you need some install instructions, you can go to the forum page here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125872
Go here http://translate.google.com.hk/translat … ft.nx0.ru/ to get the source or the executable. (this is translated from Russian to English)

If you like PacmanXG, you might vote for it. You can even go to the last page there (presently 4), and leave some comments.

Last edited by MaNNa (2012-08-20 04:57:20)

MaNNa · 2012-07-31 03:56:39

Please remember to mark this thread [SOLVED] if you are helped; up and running.......

Last edited by MaNNa (2012-07-31 04:40:25)

bijanz · 2012-07-31 05:43:27

I used Syslinux and Solved .....

Thanks For all Responds....

MaNNa · 2012-08-20 05:28:18

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For those that don't know what ARCHboot is, it is an excellent GUI installer fashioned after the recently old Arch installer, but on steroids! ARCHboot uses and installs all the same latest Arch Linux files, so there is no reason not to use ARCHboot as your installer, and save A LOT of hassles! As said above, ARCHboot also makes an excellent bootloader fixer, and can even change your existing bootloader from one to another. Expecting a new ARCHboot image from tpowa (Archboot Developer) any day now!

However, ARCHboot still does not set up a DE (Desktop Environment) for you such as KDE or XFCE, but those are easy to set up once the core is installed and booted to with a simple: pacman -Syu then pacman -S xorg kde or whatever.

The simplest install is still Arch Bridge Linux though, as it sets up most of your desktop for you as you install. The latest installer and desktop is LXDE, so I suggest that one. Then if you want to run, for example, KDE, after install and running simply do: pacman -S kde

Then edit: /etc/inittab and at the bottom remark out (put a # in front of it) the line with lxde in it, and un-remark (delete the #) in front of the line with kdm in it. Save the file and logout/login or reboot.

Please note: If you are running an nvidia graphics card, you may get a garbled screen at the desktop login screen. If you do, then reboot to the GRUB or the Syslinux bootloader, then edit the linux boot line and add a space and this: nomodeset then save and boot.

Once you get to the an ungarbled login screen, go ahead and login, and run a terminal and run from root: pacman -Syu then pacman -S xf86-video-nouveau and reboot to clear up the above garbled login screen.

Last edited by MaNNa (2012-08-20 12:07:29)

cfr · 2012-08-20 21:30:56

@MaNNa,

Please do not suggest that readers install Arch-based distros such as Bridge Linux while making it sound as if they are just installers for Arch.

ArchBoot is fine, of course. It installs Arch.

Bridge Linux installs a different distro, albeit one based on Arch. Suggesting this is a way to install Arch is just going to confuse things. Moreover, it will encourage people to think that they can legitimately ask for help on these forums when they cannot.

Arch-based is not the same as Arch - any more than Ubuntu is Debian just because it it Debian-based.

Also, I think it is not a great idea to suggest new users install GUI front-ends for pacman etc. Better to stick with pacman in the first instance since anybody using Arch should be sure they are comfortable using that at the command line.

Last edited by cfr (2012-08-20 21:38:11)

jasonwryan · 2012-08-20 23:43:23

@MaNNa - cfr is quite correct: please do not use these boards as a promotional vehicle for Arch-based distros.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fo … pport_ONLY

OP has marked the thread a solved, there is no value in replicating material on the wiki here.

Closing.

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